Murphy or Kim

[steplift20]

Is it just me or does that guy Phil Murphy look like the biggest liar and snake ? He's always trying to smile ( fake smile for sure) I feel if he wins we the working middle class are going to get screwed big time , am I the only one seeing thru him He's bad news for Nj And just to make it clear I didn't vote only because I can't vote for anyone who liked the gas tax and I didn't know that answer from anyone who was on the ticket so I just stood out this time

[Striper80]

He's a snake.

[Destroyer]

IF Murphy gets in you can kiss goodbye ANY chance of being able to carry a weapon, concealed or open, for as long as he's in power. Murphy is just another of a LONG line of Democrats that promise everything and do nothing but raise your taxes. Remember when NJ had no sales tax? Thank a Democrat for giving it to us. In 1930 it was .02 cents... and supposed to never go higher. It expired 3 years later ... The sales tax was revived in 1966, at 3 percent by Gov Hughes, a Democrat. It was increased to 5 percent in 1970 and 6 percent in 1983. After running on a promise to not increase taxes Democratic Gov. Jim Florio decided to raise the sales tax to 7 percent and also asked for a $2.8 billion tax increase. It was the largest tax increase of any state in U.S. history. And speaking of taxes, lets not forge that it was Democrat Gov Brendan Byrne that imposed the state income tax on us in 1976. All the labor unions that are bleeding the state dry are all firmly in the Dem's pockets. So your answer is simple. If you want higher taxes and no chance of regaining your Constitutionally guaranteed right to carry a gun vote for Murphy.

(I'm willing to bet that one of the first things he'll do is start charging for the saltwater fishing license that is currently free in NJ)

These are the bastards that voted for the gas tax that put us number 2 in the US as the highest gas tax. And their reasoning was that since we had not had an increase in the gas tax in 10 years they felt like they somehow deserved it, like a raise. They took advantage of the lower gas prices hoping that no one would notice that almost every penny of the lower prices was taken from us by them.. and by "them" I mean the democrat party controlled state lawmakers. If you elect Murphy you can expect more of the same. (I was down in Va 2 weeks ago and filled up my tank @ $2.09 a gal. That's about what we would be paying right now in NJ if they had not passed the .23 cents a gal higher tax.)

[bradford]

Y'all ever notice taxes never go down only up?

[steplift20]

I was watching Murphy speech when he won a I can't believe people are that stupid and they want him I think only the scum that doesn't work and take take take Want him, if he wins we the working public are screwed Chrissy was not good , raising the gas tax And don't forget the tolls my nj But he is better than Murphy I think it's time to get out of nj I just can't afford it anymore Tax tax tax That's all they know

[SkunkBoat]

There is no answer to the question. The only difference between NJ dems and NJ repubes is the dems raise taxes and the repubes borrow from the future. Every time a republican governor told you he(or she) cut your taxes they just cut income taxes for 6 figure people and borrowed against the highway fund or the pension fund. Then the repubes added more and more "sin"taxes behind the scenes (Beer, liquor, cigs, casino gaming and lottery (dream tax). The kicker is when they borrow money for 30 years to give property tax rebates to old people.

I can't vote for another Goldman Sachs duchebag so I might have to write myself in....

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

There is no answer to the question. The only difference between NJ dems and NJ repubes is the dems raise taxes and the repubes borrow from the future. Every time a republican governor told you he(or she) cut your taxes they just cut income taxes for 6 figure people and borrowed against the highway fund or the pension fund. Then the repubes added more and more "sin"taxes behind the scenes (Beer, liquor, cigs, casino gaming and lottery (dream tax). The kicker is when they borrow money for 30 years to give property tax rebates to old people.

I can't vote for another Goldman Sachs duchebag so I might have to write myself in....

Skunk, while I completely agree with you that there is no real answer to the question I feel compelled to point out that your casting the Republicans as the major cause of NJ's woes is hardly accurate. In fact, just like in the Federal system, the true power of the purse rests with the NJ Legislature and the NJ Senate. If you go back 50 years to 1967 and count forward you'll find that for 30 of those years the Democrats were completely in control of both branches and the Republicans were only in control for 12 years. That's roughly a 3-1 advantage for the Democrats. (I'm not counting the years when one party was in control of one branch and the other party was in control of the other or when both parties were split evenly)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi..._in_New_Jersey

So your casting the Republicans as the bad guys is numerically and statistically false. (It's the old song and dance that the Dems constantly use... The republicans only cut taxes for the rich, the Republicans added more sin taxes, etc etc etc.) The FACT is that the gravy pension funds that the various unions have (who are 100% in the pockets of the Democrats) are one of the main reasons for the monetary problems the state is facing. So IF you want to blame Republicans for adding more hidden taxes then at the same time you also have to blame the Democrats for giving the luxurious pensions to the unions that caused the problems in the first place.

And if you want an example of how the Unions are gouging the taxpayers of NJ you only have to look at the how the Democrats orchestrated the awarding of contracts for road and highway construction. We pay almost twice what it would normally cost because the Dems made it law that the state had to pay the "prevailing" wage, and then they wrote laws that the courts had to interpret that prevailing wage as what a union worker would get. A non-union contractor cannot even submit a bid if he doesn't hire Union workers, even thought hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars spent could be HALVED just by using non-union workers.

My point is that the Democrats are hardly the Lilly white innocents that you are making them out to be. In fact, they are the root cause of most of the money problems we face in NJ. You cannot continue to give freebies to everyone in exchange for their votes to keep you in power. Someone (the working taxpayer) has to pay, somehow, for that largess.

[SkunkBoat]

I didn't say dems were not a problem. I didn't say anything good about them. I was making the point that the repubes are not what they claim to be either. They are the same sh!t in a different bag.

[mawshj]

yes both parties want to promote big government, The only answer is LESS government ,

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

I didn't say dems were not a problem. I didn't say anything good about them. I was making the point that the repubes are not what they claim to be either. They are the same sh!t in a different bag.

Ok, on that we can totally agree.