Murphy or Kim

[SkunkBoat]

There is no answer to the question. The only difference between NJ dems and NJ repubes is the dems raise taxes and the repubes borrow from the future. Every time a republican governor told you he(or she) cut your taxes they just cut income taxes for 6 figure people and borrowed against the highway fund or the pension fund. Then the repubes added more and more "sin"taxes behind the scenes (Beer, liquor, cigs, casino gaming and lottery (dream tax). The kicker is when they borrow money for 30 years to give property tax rebates to old people.

I can't vote for another Goldman Sachs duchebag so I might have to write myself in....

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

There is no answer to the question. The only difference between NJ dems and NJ repubes is the dems raise taxes and the repubes borrow from the future. Every time a republican governor told you he(or she) cut your taxes they just cut income taxes for 6 figure people and borrowed against the highway fund or the pension fund. Then the repubes added more and more "sin"taxes behind the scenes (Beer, liquor, cigs, casino gaming and lottery (dream tax). The kicker is when they borrow money for 30 years to give property tax rebates to old people.

I can't vote for another Goldman Sachs duchebag so I might have to write myself in....

Skunk, while I completely agree with you that there is no real answer to the question I feel compelled to point out that your casting the Republicans as the major cause of NJ's woes is hardly accurate. In fact, just like in the Federal system, the true power of the purse rests with the NJ Legislature and the NJ Senate. If you go back 50 years to 1967 and count forward you'll find that for 30 of those years the Democrats were completely in control of both branches and the Republicans were only in control for 12 years. That's roughly a 3-1 advantage for the Democrats. (I'm not counting the years when one party was in control of one branch and the other party was in control of the other or when both parties were split evenly)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi..._in_New_Jersey

So your casting the Republicans as the bad guys is numerically and statistically false. (It's the old song and dance that the Dems constantly use... The republicans only cut taxes for the rich, the Republicans added more sin taxes, etc etc etc.) The FACT is that the gravy pension funds that the various unions have (who are 100% in the pockets of the Democrats) are one of the main reasons for the monetary problems the state is facing. So IF you want to blame Republicans for adding more hidden taxes then at the same time you also have to blame the Democrats for giving the luxurious pensions to the unions that caused the problems in the first place.

And if you want an example of how the Unions are gouging the taxpayers of NJ you only have to look at the how the Democrats orchestrated the awarding of contracts for road and highway construction. We pay almost twice what it would normally cost because the Dems made it law that the state had to pay the "prevailing" wage, and then they wrote laws that the courts had to interpret that prevailing wage as what a union worker would get. A non-union contractor cannot even submit a bid if he doesn't hire Union workers, even thought hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars spent could be HALVED just by using non-union workers.

My point is that the Democrats are hardly the Lilly white innocents that you are making them out to be. In fact, they are the root cause of most of the money problems we face in NJ. You cannot continue to give freebies to everyone in exchange for their votes to keep you in power. Someone (the working taxpayer) has to pay, somehow, for that largess.

[SkunkBoat]

I didn't say dems were not a problem. I didn't say anything good about them. I was making the point that the repubes are not what they claim to be either. They are the same sh!t in a different bag.

[mawshj]

yes both parties want to promote big government, The only answer is LESS government ,

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

I didn't say dems were not a problem. I didn't say anything good about them. I was making the point that the repubes are not what they claim to be either. They are the same sh!t in a different bag.

Ok, on that we can totally agree.

[bradford]

Y'all see your boy Christie chillin on the beach?

Seen that and thought of y'all.....strange how the universe works.

[steplift20]

It's time to move to S.C.
Every time there is a election in no they say they are going to lower property tax so I should be paying nothing now s C Is we're going to look

[bradford]

When you move down and eventually start telling some 6th generation local how you used to do it up north, just know that even if he doesn't say it, he really doesn't give a ****.

Seriously though, it sucks down here, ask Destroyer.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bradford

When you move down and eventually start telling some 6th generation local how you used to do it up north, just know that even if he doesn't say it, he really doesn't give a ****.

Seriously though, it sucks down here, ask Destroyer.

I loved St. Mary's... just hated the weather.... too hot, too humid, too miserable. You're a prisoner to A/C ..... A/c house to A/C car to A/C store....Lather, rinse, repeat. Oh.. and lets not forget the fire ants, mosquitoes and gators...

[bradford]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Ok, on that we can totally agree.

I'm with y'all.