The siege on our Capitol

[scook]

I don’t think that’s what we were talking about.

Your proposition that Trump would destroy our democratic structure seems to me to be an extremely unrealistic one with absolutely zero probability of success. This was clearly demonstrated while he was in office by the constant opposition and many successful court and congressional blocking of parts of his agenda.

It’s clear that you can’t stand the man on a personal level and you have plenty of reason for that. He has an ego the size of Texas, Montana and Alaska and can be obnoxious in his personal attacks. To be fair, you should probably give a little more weight to the obnoxiousness of the dishonest, personal attacks that were constantly leveled at him by the president and political opponents.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

I don’t think that’s what we were talking about.

Your proposition that Trump would destroy our democratic structure seems to me to be an extremely unrealistic one with absolutely zero probability of success. This was clearly demonstrated while he was in office by the constant opposition and many successful court and congressional blocking of parts of his agenda.

It’s clear that you can’t stand the man on a personal level and you have plenty of reason for that. He has an ego the size of Texas, Montana and Alaska and can be obnoxious in his personal attacks. To be fair, you should probably give a little more weight to the obnoxiousness of the dishonest, personal attacks that were constantly leveled at him by the president and political opponents.

That’s got more holes in it than Swiss cheese !
1. Trump has long been the KING of insulting others
2. The Republican Party is working - right now - to make fair elections UNFAIR and the outcomes CONTROLLED by their own appointment officials.
3. I don’t hate trump ……although I don’t like him personally . What I hate is he’s a lying cheating con man traitor to our nation.

What you refer to us “ unlikely to happen “ analogous to German ***s who thought things wouldn’t get worse in their country, until it was too late and they couldn’t get out.

Those who fail to follow the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it .

[scook]

Do you have a link regarding Republicans working to make elections unfair? Everything I’ve seen looks like they just want voter ID, adequate to reasonably assure that only citizens are voting. I’m open to new information.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

Do you have a link regarding Republicans working to make elections unfair? Everything I’ve seen looks like they just want voter ID, adequate to reasonably assure that only citizens are voting. I’m open to new information.

This will get you started

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/28/97087...-werent-broken

[oteps]

So unfair means limiting early voting to 17 days before and limiting mail in voting? And having an ID to vote? How is that unfair? How are they going to control the outcome if the votes are counted legally?

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by oteps

So unfair means limiting early voting to 17 days before and limiting mail in voting? And having an ID to vote? How is that unfair? How are they going to control the outcome if the votes are counted legally?

Oteps - no that’s not bad - what is bad was in the attachment I thoughtfully provided

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/28/97087...-werent-broken

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Oteps - no that’s not bad - what is bad was in the attachment I thoughtfully provided

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/28/97087...-werent-broken

Hmmm.... I'm with Osteps on this one. He said

So unfair means limiting early voting to 17 days before and limiting mail in voting? And having an ID to vote? How is that unfair? How are they going to control the outcome if the votes are counted legally?

To which you said

no that’s not bad - what is bad was in the attachment I thoughtfully provided

Well, I read word for word the link you thoughtfully provided, and while it's slant and spin was decidedly anti-Republican, still, it did make a number of salient points. All of which Osteps covered in his comment. So I'll repeat his comment ... "So unfair means limiting early voting to 17 days before and limiting mail in voting? And having an ID to vote? How is that unfair? How are they going to control the outcome if the votes are counted legally"?

I'll ask the same question. How is that unfair? How are the Republicans going to control the outcome of the election if the votes are counted legally?

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[bgreene]

The records produced by Meadows leave "no doubt" that the White House knew about the violent riot that was taking place at the Capitol as the chaos unfolded.

Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., read out a series of panicked messages that pro-Trump Fox News hosts, congressional lawmakers and even the president's own children had sent Meadows during the riot.

"Mark, the president needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home. This is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy," Cheney said, quoting a text from Fox host Laura Ingraham.

Meanwhile - the so called law and order trump was enjoying the attack on our Capitol

[oteps]

What?

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by oteps

What?

That’s right - it’s all coming out now - while Trump watched the violent Insurrection attempt on his TV.

Mark Meadows - now in contempt of court