Fox News and politics

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Trump LOST the election by a wider margin than when he beat Clinton on 2016.
At that time trump praised our voting system .

Now trump LOST and with ZERO evidence of any real meaningful or significant shred of evidence he turned on his faithful VP Pence and turned against our democracy .

Because trump is a self serving lying con man traitor who obviously has classic malignant narcissistic personality disorder.

Here’s the complete report and video of the VIOLENT insurrection assault on our Capitol


https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/pol...upporters.html

And of course, you cite a "news" source that has, for the last 5 years+ proven itself to be anti-Trump and that has had to print retraction after retraction of the whoppers (stories) that they have reported about President Trump. They are so biased that anything they print "might" have smidgen of truth in it someplace but it will be made to look far worse than whatever it is by their biased writings.

[scook]

To be fair, in 2016, he was praising a very different voting system. Much of the system that guarded the integrity of the balloting has been gutted, using COVID as an excuse to implement vulnerable mail-in systems. Many of these are illegal under the laws of the states implementing them.

The left seems a great deal more inclined to pass laws than to follow them.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

To be fair, in 2016, he was praising a very different voting system. Much of the system that guarded the integrity of the balloting has been gutted, using COVID as an excuse to implement vulnerable mail-in systems. Many of these are illegal under the laws of the states implementing them.

The left seems a great deal more inclined to pass laws than to follow them.

Wrong - our military has been using mail in voting for decades.
How do you think our troops around the world voted .
It works, is accurate and is part of the reason TRUMP LOST

Reason being most BIDEN supporters also knew to help limit COVID spread, it was safer, smarter, and more honorable to vote by mail than go in person to voting centers .
That’s why I ALSO voted by mail .

[scook]

No, it’s not wrong. You’re doing lawyer speak, where you take something that’s true and generalize it to something where it’s not true. The vote by mail in many states has been made radically different than the military system and even our Oregon system that seems to be carefully and probably reasonably honestly administered.

You seem to be missing that I’m not arguing whether Trump won or lost - simply that there is plenty of honest reason to question the integrity of the election process, particularly where vote by mail has been made very vulnerable to fraud.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

No, it’s not wrong. You’re doing lawyer speak, where you take something that’s true and generalize it to something where it’s not true. The vote by mail in many states has been made radically different than the military system and even our Oregon system that seems to be carefully and probably reasonably honestly administered.

You seem to be missing that I’m not arguing whether Trump won or lost - simply that there is plenty of honest reason to question the integrity of the election process, particularly where vote by mail has been made very vulnerable to fraud.

There was no fraud found and trump lost

[scook]

The Arizona study you cited found fraud and was unable to verify the integrity of the ballots counted. I haven’t studied the vote counts/margins in the important states to see how much fraud would be necessary to tip the election, but since you weren’t borne last night, you know that in ANY undertaking the size of our national election there’s going to be fraud. Neither you or I know how much there was.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Wrong - our military has been using mail in voting for decades.
How do you think our troops around the world voted .
It works, is accurate and is part of the reason TRUMP LOST

Reason being most BIDEN supporters also knew to help limit COVID spread, it was safer, smarter, and more honorable to vote by mail than go in person to voting centers .
That***8217;s why I ALSO voted by mail .

It works, is accurate and is part of the reason TRUMP LOST[

Correct. Can't argue with you on most of this post. Mail in voting is one of the reasons that President Trump lost a rigged election. There is so much more chance for fraud.

That***8217;s why I ALSO voted by mail

NO, You had NO CHOICE You live in NJ like I do and NJ ONLY had voting by mail. No in person.. so don't make out like you are some kind of noble person.

[bgreene]

A. Yes I am a fairly noble person

B. Trump the cheater warned to stop the vote counting in PA before the mail in ballots came in- because he knew those were mostly BIDEN VOTES from SMART people .

C. Rigged election ? ZERO PROOF - just trumps lies, so you’ll vote to destroy our democracy based on conspiracy theories and lies.
That makes you a traitor to our nation too, no matter how you spin the BS

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by scook

The Arizona study you cited found fraud and was unable to verify the integrity of the ballots counted. I haven’t studied the vote counts/margins in the important states to see how much fraud would be necessary to tip the election, but since you weren’t borne last night, you know that in ANY undertaking the size of our national election there’s going to be fraud. Neither you or I know how much there was.

Isn't it funny that almost no one in the mainstream media seems to want to question or even mention the 57,000 questionable ballots in Az? Yet the very same group of people that tout the integrity of the mail in ballots are the same group that are trying with every legal procedure they can use to stop or delay any recounts. And< I might add, are the very same group of people that are so dead set against any form of voter ID card and in person voting like they use in Canada. You have to wonder how those pesky Canadians, with all their snow and cold, can manage to get to the polling places when Americans can't.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Isn't it funny that almost no one in the mainstream media seems to want to question or even mention the 57,000 questionable ballots in Az? Yet the very same group of people that tout the integrity of the mail in ballots are the same group that are trying with every legal procedure they can use to stop or delay any recounts. And< I might add, are the very same group of people that are so dead set against any form of voter ID card and in person voting like they use in Canada. You have to wonder how those pesky Canadians, with all their snow and cold, can manage to get to the polling places when Americans can't.

WRONG Conspiracy theory - Biden actual had MORE VOTES after the audit