Is Trump the " Manchrian Candidate"

[THEFERMANATOR]

He's making some enemies today with conservatives in libertarians. After civil asset forfwiture was nearing it's death, he has said not only will he keep it, but he plans on ramping it up and making it more difficult to get YOUR belongings back after they've been seized. I read about it in a fox news article posted up by none other than Ted Nugent calling Trump out for his remarks about it. Many have lost there lives to blatantly obvious false civil asset forfeiture, and he wants to ramp it up.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR

He's making some enemies today with conservatives in libertarians. After civil asset forfeiture was nearing it's death, he has said not only will he keep it, but he plans on ramping it up and making it more difficult to get YOUR belongings back after they've been seized. I read about it in a fox news article posted up by none other than Ted Nugent calling Trump out for his remarks about it. Many have lost there lives to blatantly obvious false civil asset forfeiture, and he wants to ramp it up.

I agree that some civil asset cases are so far out as to be unbelievable, and would also point out that they all have occurred under previous administrations. To the best of my knowledge none have taken place yet under President Trumps admin. That being said, understand that it's really a states issue. 12 states have passed laws making it necessary for the police to secure a conviction before they can seize the property. Asset forfeiture has become a great money generating tool for the police, and like anything that makes money for the government, it's subject to abuse by that same government. (Think of how much the cost of a speeding ticket has increased over the years as an example). Unfortunately, the same has become common practice in asset forfeiture cases in far to many states. Reform IS necessary, but the POTUS's remarks last week during the Sheriff's meeting and his appointment of Sen. Session's have done little to hearten opponents to the practice.

[mawshj]

I agree, but I doubt that Hillary would do different, we NEED to call our representatives over and over !!

[Troutkiller2006]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Wow, and I thought John McCain the " Rambo" of the party.....beloved by all.

Trump's like John Gotti when he was at his height of power.....they called him the " Teflon Don" because nothing bad stuck to him.....till it did.

We'll see. In the meantime, it's only about 120 days till I'm fishing again !!!

just wanna give yall a couple of questions to think about on this russian hacking topic. questions that i think are the really important ones that i never hear anyone asking

were the leaked emails fabricated, false or untrue?
by all accounts ive seen, no

what was in the leaked emails?
looks to me like the DNC and our setting govt at the time were trying to rig the election

why would the russians or anyone else be considered our enemy for telling the american people the truth?
same reason we have the second amendment, if you ask me

have the same people calling for action against russia ever meddled in foreign elections?
other than all the bombs that have fallen, regimes overthrown and countless cases of the obvious lets consider this... former POTUS obama, while in office, sent his entire campaign staff along with over 200 million dollars of taxpayer money to Israel where they ran a campaign for one presidential candidate over another. Israel! arguably our greatest Allie. this is a matter of historical fact, as is all the trouble it caused. no one denies it, the media just doesnt mention it


now theyve got this recording of some trump guy talking to some russian guy... well, WHO THE **** RECORDED THAT CONVERSATION?
oh it doesnt matter who recorded it, its what was said (not much) that matters. REALLY?

most important question i can ask right here...
why is "divide and conquer" called the oldest trick in the book?
is it because it stil works or is it because its so easy to do to a puplation that has been so dumbed down that a small group of people claiming to be a majority can sway so much power at the behest of a govt that is suppose to support the majority. all because our televisions have taught us that its the right thing to do


one more thing for DESTROYER... the "framers of the constitution" did not include term limits in our constitution. that came about around 1950, i think, after a very popular president sat in office way too long, accomplished way too much and when he was finally gone republicans and democrats in washington decided that they could never let that happen again and passed the 22nd (???) amendment

[mawshj]

I think it is time to take the 17 spy divisions of U.S. Gov down to 1 or 2. these guys spend too much $ trying to take down each other instead of our enemy. I can't recall one time when they prevented anything. All they do is provide NOISE and try to be self important. Wen the media start talking about leaks and who talked to who. TURN IT OFF

[bradford]

Since about that time, war had been literally continuous, though strictly speaking it had not always been the same war. For several months during his childhood there had been confused street fighting in London itself, some of which he remembered vividly. But to trace out the history of the whole period, to say who was fighting whom at any given moment, would have been utterly impossible, since no written record, and no spoken word, ever made mention of any other alignment than the existing one. At this moment, for example, in 1984 (if it was 1984), Oceania was at war with Eurasia and in alliance with Eastasia. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge, which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible.