Yamaha 225 4 stroke to heavy?

[steplift20]

to heavy you dont and wont need that much hp go with a 150 mercury sorry guy im a mercury fan

[BenFishin]

Well i am definately convinced not to buy the 225. Thats what forums like this and good people are for. I looked extremely hard to find a 175 suzuki when i couldnt find hardly any used suzukis i gave that search up. The same goes with the etec. I would like a 200 etec as they are still very light. Right now, for the right price i would go with a 150/175 suzuki, 150/175 HPDI or a f150. Did they make the johnzuki bigger then 140? I thought long and hard about the 140 but its not going to give me the torque/speed i am looking for. And im not in need of a ton of top end but being able to beat a storm home or power up the backside of 10-14ft breakers on the way back home from the shoals is a must. I dont think a 140 is going to do it.

Now i guess i shall look into posting some pics up here.

MJ - I am goin to try and post a pic of my transom to see if you think yours is the same shape. Mine has a rather significant bend to it.

[cterrebonne]

i ran alot of engines in my time. im not sure if anyone here is running a 150/175 60deg johnrude. but the low end and mid ragne not even merc can match ( i own more mercs than j/e so its an unbiased opinion) if you are not concerned with fuel efficientcy, meaning, you might use your boat 2-3 times a month which most people can do. the 3-4k in price would not be beneficial as oppose to the fuel savings you would see. now if you needed the extra range to due fuel tank limitations then the newer technology would be a must. im sure anyone on here whos ever been in some really really snotty seas will say that nothing makes it worse than an under powered boat.

[macojoe]

If you prop it right you will have all the torque you want or need.

As for the curve in the transom, all V20's have it. I cut wedges out of a 4x4 PT on the corners, then covered with marine tex to seal and look like the rest of the bracket.

[BenFishin]

That was a good idea. did you run the bolt all the way through the 4x4? That set back is alot further back then the bracket i have but i like yours better. if you dont mind me asking how much did it run you? I have a extremly strong bracket that was custom made that i think i could sell or possibly trade someone. It has a jack plate on it as well.

As for the johnrude. i am trying to keep my next motor fuel injected and rather new 03-present. All this work i dont want to put something old on the back. I would def kill for a 175-200 etec tho. Yall keep your eyes peeled!

[THEFERMANATOR]

The 140 JOHNZUKI will have PLENTY of torque if you prop it right with a 4 blade stainless prop. Randleman is VERY happy with his even with several people on board. WHy are you so dead set on having a newer engine? Newer isn't always better. If economy is your main reason I understand, but if economy can be compromised then the 150/175 JOHNNY-RUDE is a GOOD choice. It is a bit thirsty, but not any worse than a 2.5L MERC. And also remember that ONE , just one repair on one of these newer engines can buy a couple HUNDRED gallons of fuel. The 4 strokes are proving to be pretty reliable, and so have he DFI's. But parts for these newer engines have almost turned many of them into throw-aways as most people won't spend $1500 for a compressor on an old engine that may also need a $1K worth of injector work in a OPTIMAX. Or a $1K EMM in ETEC/FICHT. I run an old school engine not because it's all I can afford, it's because when something breaks(which all of them will eventually) I can afford the parts to fix it. Newer DFI 2 strokes are VERY efficient on fuel at cruise, but as you run them harder that fuel savings goes away. To each his own, but that's my opinion on the matter.

[nymack66]

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR

The 140 JOHNZUKI will have PLENTY of torque if you prop it right with a 4 blade stainless prop. Randleman is VERY happy with his even with several people on board. WHy are you so dead set on having a newer engine? Newer isn't always better. If economy is your main reason I understand, but if economy can be compromised then the 150/175 JOHNNY-RUDE is a GOOD choice. It is a bit thirsty, but not any worse than a 2.5L MERC. And also remember that ONE , just one repair on one of these newer engines can buy a couple HUNDRED gallons of fuel. The 4 strokes are proving to be pretty reliable, and so have he DFI's. But parts for these newer engines have almost turned many of them into throw-aways as most people won't spend $1500 for a compressor on an old engine that may also need a $1K worth of injector work in a OPTIMAX. Or a $1K EMM in ETEC/FICHT. I run an old school engine not because it's all I can afford, it's because when something breaks(which all of them will eventually) I can afford the parts to fix it. Newer DFI 2 strokes are VERY efficient on fuel at cruise, but as you run them harder that fuel savings goes away. To each his own, but that's my opinion on the matter.

Ferm,
Your knowledge and reasoning is priceless, You just answer my question in regards to a re-power , Unless the EPA tells me 2 stroke is dead, I will stick with my Looper as a matter of fact I am in the market for a spare I will re-build it an have it ready for a Bolt up in a pinch if I ever have to, it will still be cheaper than buying a new motor. Plus I will learn even more building it ..