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Well I guess I'll let the cat out of the bag. Sorry no pictures yet, but I bought an 89 HYDRA-SPORTS 2000CC. It is in pretty decent shape overall, but needs a little work. Unfortunately a previous owner decided to cut the fuel tank hatch cover at the center console instead of tilting the console and removing it in one piece when the tank was replaced. Also the last owners mechanic was NOT someone who should be wrenching on a JOHNNY-RUDE. It has 200HP JOHNNY-RUDE looper on it, year unknown.

It has a 98 clamp bracket, and the engine is mostly a 88-92 style(serial number leads me to 92, but it only has the serial number like it was a reman powerhead). He had just had a new power pack and the flywheel magnets glued back in. WEll the quikstart didn't work at all, and it wouldn't start without a battery charger hooked up to it. The stator in it was JUNK, and all 6 magnets fell out when I pulled the flywheel(the last mechanic used fiberglass body adhesive to install the magnets). So much for the last owners idea of turn key ready.

Unfortunately I took the guys word and didn't sea-trial it first(I know my mistake). So the flywheel is in the shop with the epoxy curing on the magnets, and I installed the new stator already($357). Called the last owner and reminded him of his turn key statement, and his answer was "Well I felt it was fine when it left my yard, so it's your problem now". So DON'T EVER take a sellers word, verify it for yourself first. I'll try and remember to take some pictures tommorrow.

Anybody want a really nice flats boat?
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Congrats on the boat!!

I am sure no matter what you will have her ship shape in no time!!
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yeah we know you got it. that was the one BGA asked you to check out for him lol. BGA called about it and found out you bought it. good luck. by the way i think in legal stuff you could sue for misrepresentation
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Sorry to hear about the needed repairs. How much for the flats boat?
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I got a little over $10K in my flat's boat, but know i won't ever get it out of it. I told BGA about this one a few weeks back, but then he was outa the hunt. He E-mailed me about to go look at it about 2 hours after I had told the guy I would buy it. My other half fell for it harder than I did, so she said buy it. So I did. I am a bit ticked about the $500 in the engine so far for a supposed rebuilt engine that needed nothing, but in his defense he did have receipts for all of the work. His mechanic told him it was normal to need 2 batteries to make the engine turn over fast enough to start. 91 volts port and 94 volts starboard aint enough juice to make 1 kick off very well. Hopefully it will be better tommorrow. I should have known somethin was amidst though when I started it and it was smokin so much and idling low, but figured it was just excess oil in the carbs from sitting and gas evaporating out. I know my 140 does it when I let it set. I'll find out tommorrow, although the epoxy did feel dry when I checked it earlier? Nah, I'll let it dry overnight.

NADA on my flats boat is roughly $10,640 average retail not including trailer, push pole, and the platform.
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2000CC HYDRA-SPORT 225+HP EVINRUDE SOLD

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. by the way i think in legal stuff you could sue for misrepresentation
good luck with that one...unless there was a written contract...a stator and flywheel magents still sounds like a good deal... they were gonna need replacing eventually
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good luck with that one...unless there was a written contract...a stator and flywheel magents still sounds like a good deal... they were gonna need replacing eventually
The bummer was they were supposed to have just been done. He used a green fiber type adhesive that looked just like FIBERGLASS body shop adhesive. Bonded very poorly. All six fell out when the flywheel popped loose. I'll see how the BOMBARDIER stuff does, it's setting up now. I hade to replace a broken magnet as well. I did notice that the new BOMBARDIER stators are builty like the MERC stators without the black potting in them. I also can't get over how somebody who is supposed to be a JOHNNY-RUDE expert cannot link and sync a looper. I have yet to work on one that was synced right after having somebody else work on em. I mean come on now, they even put marks on em to line up the dots basically.
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AND THE PINK JEEP!!!! R.I.P.
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2 part 5 min epoxy from Lowes will hold them in better than OMC crap. plus much cheaper and are you talking about the magnets location in the flywheel? those outside magnets don't have a set location they don't matter only the center core magnet ring matters. the outside 6 are only charging for the battery and the coils. the center times the motor. the outside 6 only need an even gap at each point. oh and you actually don't need glue. they make a plastic snap in ring that holds the magnets in place forever no glue and never a worry of loose ones again.
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I looked for the plastic ring, but go figure can't find one when i need it. The center magnet for the timing is fine. The outers is what fell out. One was broken as well. I already got em glued back in and setting up. The stuff they included in the package seems like some pretty good stuff. It's already set up pretty hard. I know the stuff that came with the replacement magnet I got was different than the stuff he sold in the old OMC packs. And my problem was low voltage to the charge coil, pick-up coils had good output to the pack.

And the marks I was talking about had to deal with the linkage on the carbs. I can't get over how some people set these things up with the butterfly's slightly opened, and then retard the timing back to make them idle. I line up the marks and set them like my CLYMER says, and they all run like a top.
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2000CC HYDRA-SPORT 225+HP EVINRUDE SOLD

AND THE PINK JEEP!!!! R.I.P.
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