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I have tried to search all over the net to find its value or recent sales but I can find hardly anything. Does nobody ever sell these things? I want to hang it on a 20 fisherman.
Looking at a 2000 Suzuki 140hp fourstroke. Normal hours purchasing from a known marina in my area. Comes with cables gauges, ignition, every thing it needs to run. Guy is asking $5000. Seems high for a 2000? Right now I have a '88 150 yamaha that lost a cylinder so I'm in need of something. Considered new but can't justify $13500 for an '89 boat. Thanks |
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If it's a saltwater motor . . . make sure you inspect it for corrosion. See pics below.
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outboards are kinda like pick up trucks, only depreciate so far, then hold their own. that's about half price for a 16 year old motor. if it's low hours and very clean, that,s not a bad price. those are good motors with not a lot of problems. like bigshrimpin pointed out, corrosion is an issue. heard of a few with lower engine seals failing. great fuel economy.
i debated about spending $13,500 on my 86 and decided to do so. if it doesn't work out, i have a fresh motor to put on a new hull, so it made sense to me. deshet had a 96 with a low hour 140 suzuki on here about a month ago for $5500. |
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In my opinion, unless its a showroom clean engine, $5K is to much. I'm from Florida, but down here I would expect to see $3500-4000 for that engine. And corrosion is a HUGE issue on SUZUKI'S, even in freshwater. I really like SUZUKI outboards, but I won't buy one used. I had a chance to buy a nearly identical boat to my current skiff, but it was 4 years older with a SUZUKI. I passed and paid double for one 4 years newer with a YAMAHA on it.
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Search Tags here for "DF140" to see all of my posts regarding my 2004 DF140.
I had the corroded part pictured. It was bad design to put that plug in the exhaust channel. I replaced the entire engine holder housing but the corrosion was limited to the plug as pictured. Some people have just used JB Weld and went on their way. I had a similar corrosion problem on my '91 Merc 150 at the thermostat, so there you go... Aside from that, I love the motor and recommend them often. It was $10k installed new. I don't think I would pay $5k for a 16 year old outboard motor, no matter the brand. In 1999 I bought my '84 V20 with 9 yr old Merc150 and 6 yr old tandem trailer for $7k. Old motors are like old cars. Stuff is about to break. If they run great and you already own them they are worth a lot to you. If you buy them, you are buying the privilege of fixing them one piece at a time...If you can't afford a new one, you gotta gamble on a used one. My motor is 12 years old. It runs great. I replaced the IAC valve 2 years ago. Caused stalling when backing off from running fast to idle. I replaced low pressure fuel filter and engine anodes. Thinking of replacing low pressure fuel pump this spring before it can be a problem. The steering pivot shaft is getting tight and I will be disassembling it to clean old grease, replacing bushings while I'm at it. I would check for the corroded plug and try to look at one of the 4 anodes in the head. If it hasn't been changed yet, it will be dust. If the 2000 is the same as the 2004, you can check the hours by watching the tach and the rev limit light when you turn the key. Tach will show 1000 rpm for every 100 hrs up to 500hrs. Above 500hrs rev limit blinks once and tach starts from zero again, above 1000hrs, rev limit blinks twice, etc...
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Here is the edit: Just talked to the dealer and it is an '06. So that changes things a little. Dealer has been servicing the motor last couple years, regular maintenance and upkeep.
Last edited by jrisapirate; 03-03-2016 at 09:34 AM. |
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my service manual starts with '02
edit; 2006, oh, that changes alot!
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Seems high to me. The problem is you are at that point where an unknown used engine for that price and higher with any real use on it becomes a worse deal than buying a new one where you know the history that costs twice as much. The only way you can justify spending the money for a new engine, or a boat for that matter is to USE it. That's the only way you get your money out unless you're buying super cheap and flipping.
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$5k still a little steep for me, but I already have one...
I would get a good look at the port side. Its hard to see the plug without removing the lower clam shell. Ask them to show you it and if anything has ever been done. It is possible the '06 has the solid engine holder with no plug. Ask about the anodes in the port side of the head. If they would let you remove one to look that would be helpful. But once removed, you really need to replace the gasket/o-ring. By now, they should have been replaced as well as the fuel filter and thermostat.
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Bradford has a good point.
At 12 years and 950 hrs, I believe I have already gotten my $10k out of my engine. I can afford to keep it going as long as I am confident in it. I wouldn't buy it for $5k...I would sell it for $5k and buy a new one...
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