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Unread 05-20-2012, 07:27 AM
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Default Need Some suggestions...Cap Removal/False Wall

I tried to post this a couple of times but could't really explain what I was trying to say. I figured I could do it better in a video. Not perfect but better, LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDbzd...ature=youtu.be

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Unread 05-20-2012, 07:54 AM
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The boat you have in the video is a 2 piece hull meaning that whole liner has to come out then you flip it over to replace the floor and then you do your transom repair with the liner out. then you set the liner back in the boat glued to the stringers with a putty. search our forum for some rack systems guys have built to remove heavy bulky liners.
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Wow! I thought I was prepared to take this on. The liner has completely rocked my confidence. I don't have access to a forklift or any mechanical device, so that sucks.

If all early Vs were made with the same hull, why liners on some but not others?
After reading post that the liner is indeed structural, I am confused as to how all don't have liners.

I'm a little bummed right now, but not ready to give up. So, that has to be the reason for the shotty transom job by PO.

Still searching thread to find methods to remove liner...
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My 74' is a three piece hull. Meaning that you remove the cap,then the liner. Your cap and "liner" is all one piece. Other guys on here know exactly what year they changed the insert im not sure, but they changed the insert so the floor could be raised to make it selfbailing. so they did this by raising the cap (hence the 5 to 6 inch curb look above the hull on your cap). And I take it that allowed them to keep proper free board when they raised the stringer height and ultimately raising the sole. the actuall hull design itself was untouched. somebody will chime in and give you some history on the v20 design as im not to sure.

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BigHE where are you located? Maybe somebody is close that can help.

X2 what Kracker said. Remove the liner in one piece, flip it over then replace your plywood in the floor. The plywood that gives the floor its strength is laminated to the bottom of the liner. No cutting on the liner at all.

I have an 18 Fisherman that is junk because the PO cut the liner all the way across and removed the back half to do a transom replacement. Then they did a halfass patch job on the liner by just running fiberglass and tape over the seam. I could have removed the liner in one piece with just one winch but when i lifted on it, their patch job broke. I am about to pull the liner on my 83 V20. I plan to set up pipe scaffold on each side of the boat with 4x6s running across the top to lift from.

Here is a lift rack set up from another thread- http://www.wellcraftv20.com/communit...53&postcount=7
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Unread 05-20-2012, 05:10 PM
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I must admit I was a little shaken earlier. I went out to the boat to take an actual look at the situation.

Its not so bad. In fact I think it may be better this way. The only thing that concerns me at this point is "puttying" the floor to the stringers and hoping to get a good bond. For some reason, I imagine its easier laying the wood right side up. It could all be in my mind.

Anyway, I took off the remaining rubrail, took out all the screws and rivets that were holding the other side together (without the rubrail) and removed all the sealant holding the cap/liner to the hull. I can kinda lift the cap off the hull all the way around (except for the splashwell).

I spoke to a fella at the marina where I store my boats. He was driving by in a backhoe (smelling what I'm cooking ) I asked if he would mind helping me pop the cap free from the hull with the backhoe. He said "No problem." I just have to let him no when. He'd be more comfortable using 2x4s than pulling directly on the boat cleats, so we'll just have to figure that out.

That hoist/rack is sweet. I'm going to look into building something like that at my rebuild location. I'm gonna have him pull the liner free and then lower it back into the hull. Then I'll move it to where I'm actually doing the rebuild. I wanted to have all the dirty work (foam and rotted wood) removed before I moved it. Not a big deal. Change of plans due to liner issue.

Should I remove liner with hatches attached? Will the hatches add stability to the liner once I remove the liner from the hull?

Thanks for the info and the tips.
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