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Modern day kids can't answer basic questions.. And this is what we pay good money for taxes for our "great" teachers?

http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/02/03/...sic-questions/
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Modern day kids can't answer basic questions.. And this is what we pay good money for taxes for our "great" teachers?

http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/02/03/...sic-questions/
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No, I hold all of us responsible. We have allowed a Teacher Union and a Liberal Agenda to alter the intelligence of our children.
We have allowed an educational system which has altered those things that made America exceptional and the greatest nation in the history of the world to be corrupted by a progressive agenda which views the U.S as an evil empire.
You have an agenda based Educational Hierarchy that hires teachers with an absolutely left wing agenda be hired and any teachers that express a truthful thought in these matters are not allowed to gain tenure therefore controlling thought and critical thinking in our education system.
This entire system is breeding children without the ability to think critically, have no clue as to how great a nation they have been given, what separates us from all the other nations in the world.
This is our fault, we should demand change, we should throw out these $300,000+ a year administrators demand an end to tenure and demand not only changes to the indoctrination that has been going on but also demand performance objectives be enforced in our schools.
The major change we should ensure is removing government and union control of our childrens education and force charter type schools and private education to receive the tax money we are forced by government to give to them.
If you let the American People decide where their money goes the public school system is the last place they will let their money go as it has been an adjunct failure for decades and is failing our children, failing our country and failing in the competitive nature of the entire world.
We are paying the consequences of this huge failure right now, our nation is decline largely because of this failure and our nations future depends on us changing the current system dramatically.
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This is not a slight on those conscientious teachers that work hard and do the best for their children.
But the system is without a doubt an adjunct failure and the entire system needs to be changed immediately.
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"$300,000+ a year administrators "

must be a northern thing, the only one's making that down here are the football coaches
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Sorry, didn't mean to step on someone's toes. Actually, you're right, I mispoke, I should not have blamed just the teachers..... I do hold the parents responsible, but I also hold the teachers, the school board and mostly Government responsible for the absolutely shameful state of our childrens education. The parents because it's their responsibilty to control and guide their children. If they don't take an active role in their childs education then they are failing as a parent. The school board and the teachers because it's their responsibility to raise warning flags if they see a flaw in the cirriculum they are required to teach or how they are required to teach it. I also blame the teachers union, which is way too powerful and blocks any attempt to remove a poorly performing teacher, so all the teachers suffer as well as the students. Lastly, I blame the government, as being mostly responsibe because they set the cirriculum that the teachers are forced to teach. They dumb down the requirements, change the subjects, remove subjects, etc., all at their whim or whatever is politically expedient. A perfect example is the length of time that a teacher is given to teach a subject. It takes a certain amount of time to transfer knowledge they have on a particular subject from the teacher to a student. if the cirriculum is changed every year (and sometimes in the middle of the year) it's almost impossible for the teacher to teach it properly. And that's been going on like that for over 25 years now in New Jersey. And being a past member of the Board of Education I know a little of what I speak. I was also the technology chairman of the PTO in our town and was a member of the PTO every year that my son was in school here. Oh, and my sister-in-law, who is also a past Mayor in my town, retired after 25 years as a teacher here.

So yes, I do blame the teachers. Not entirely, but they are far from innocent. To be certain, there are some very fine, very dedicated teachers, and they are gems that should be treasured and listened to when they say something, but there are also bad ones in the system that just want to collect a paycheck. They don't give a damn about what they teach or how they teach it... and they are protected by a union that drags the good ones down to their level.

No, I am not going to hold the parents alone accountable, any more than I'm going to hold teachers alone accountable, or the school board, or the government. There is more then enough blame to go around for everyone.
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"$300,000+ a year administrators "

must be a northern thing, the only one's making that down here are the football coaches
Actually, I'm pretty certain that Waynes Superintendent of Schools makes more than that. :(
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You cant tell me its a teachers fault that a kid doesnt know how many states there are or that the Revolutionary war gave us our independence.....How come the rest of the population gets out knowing these things? You cant take a video of a handful of retards and paint an ENTIRE system a failure.

And keep in mind that Superintendents in NJ used to be a tenured position. When they got rid of tenure is what led to high turnover and skyrocketing salaries because school districts were competing for the good ones.
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My wife is a teacher, she teaches 3rd grade.

She tells me all the time how she feels like she is failing the kids because she has to teach them the answers to the end of grade tests instead of actually teaching them life skills.

"No child left behind" is leaving us all behind.
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Actually, I disagree with the handful of retard statement above. Lest them be some big hands. Leno goes walkabout asking grown-ups similar questions and the results are equally as stunning.
The admin. assistant to the Superintendant of Schools in Polk County, FL. starts off at a mere $125,000+ benefits. Supers make $140-150K/yr Teachers start at $36,000 + benefits. School Board members make $35,000. Why does a admin assistant make a six figure salary? Who is most important to the education of the children? Let me go at it from another angle, Mrs. $125,000 fails to show up Monday morning because she stayed up too late watching the Superbowl. Who does her job while she is away and does that interfere with the development of the children? A. Nobody needs do anything and the children have their regular lesson plan. Now, let the $36,000 teacher miss Monday morning and see what happens?

I know why the education system is in a constant state of chaos in Florida. Aside from using tax payer dollars to bus children all over the county to have the proper ratio of black,yellow,brown, and white. The teachers must base their lesson plan on the least advanced in the class while trying to focus on teaching the entire class enough book smarts to pass the FCAT. So we hamstring them with English as a Second Language students (Students of Migrant Workers and Illegal Immigrants) and then hold the teachers feet to the fire on test scores. At least one Charter School around here, weeds out the weak children to make their ranking look better. If it was up to me I would not allow any tax money to go to any school that:
1. I never had the opportunity to attend.
2. My child does not have the opportunity to attend.
3. Gives underperforming students the boot to maintain their ranking.

I can tell you that I absolutely love it when my daughters Title I school comes back with a higher ranking than the magnet schools and even some of the Charter Schools. It warms my heart and you can thank the parents and the teachers because it is obvious they care. Administrators? They may care but how would we know? How can anyone judge the performance of a glorified paper pusher.
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