No more middle class???

[charlie_the_tuna]

so i read an article in todays post about the decline of the middle class. i couldnt find it on their website and even if i did it was pretty long.
it basically talked about how the american dream used to be what we consider middle class and that with the ressesion and all, this may be the new normal.
talked about how the only projected job growth would be professionals and how the middle class is disappearing. they say soon there will be rich people and poor people. this kind of hit home as when growing up my mom only went back to work when we were old enough to come home from school and take care of ourselves. until then my pop always provided for us. when i got married 14 years ago, we were doing kind of alright but as my mortgage and taxes creep up constantly its getting harder and harder to make ends meet, which is kind of amazing because i make what sounds like a decent living. my wife only works part time but she's there when the kids are so i couldnt ask for more from her.
i guess its true. the middle class is going the way of the bustle.
rich or poor? where will you fall?

[THEFERMANATOR]

I unfortunately fall in the REALLY poor category. Unfortunately this is how our current government wants us, all poor and dependant upon them. These are all things that have been set in motion for decades now, and will take alot of work to hopefully undo. And despite what many think, the democratic party is the #1 offender trying to make it this way. They want everybody dependant on the government, and then the super elite class on the other end.

[spareparts]

I have a book called the Confederate Nation, its a real long boring text book explaining the ideals and goals of the Southern Democratic party and their goals of returning the US to a caste system of government preceding and thru the civil war. As you read thru the text, just replace the dates with current dates and it all fits in with the current goals of the Democratic party(excepting the issue of slavery). The corner stone of this type of government is the elimination of the middle class, where you have the powers that be and governors(land owners) and the rest that work for them. I allways found it ironic that the demcratic party stood for a non democratic government

[willy]

If you want the whole truth and nothing but the truth watch Glenn Beck, tevo it or record it 5pm on Fox. He just did a special on Soros and how Obama has him on speed dial, Soros and his minions have a multi point plan to deflate our dollar and cause this country to go into turmoil with one group fighting with another, class warfare, all set up to force the United States into the new world order.
We are the Progressives only real hindrance and we have been in their sights for decades now.
These are facts, not theory, in their own words on tape telling us what they are doing.
And any of you fellows who are in the AFL-CIO and this Trumka guy is who you are keeping in office you need to ask yourself just one question, are you a communist? Because he is! And he makes no bones about it, so much so that the Communist Party U.S has just released a info packet about how they and this union with Trumka worked in five key cities to prevent the Republicans from winning the Senate.
This is despicable, our workers working with Progressives in the government to destroy America as we know it and not even hiding it.
You know we are in trouble when American Union Members support with their efforts and their money this kind of treason.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Yep, soros's wet dream is no more middle class. Just a bunch of poor people dependant upon the government, and his buddies in the elite pulling the puppet strings.

[reelapeelin]

If you guys are blaming all our problems on the current administration, you haven't been paying attention to what ALL the politicians have been doing to us over the last MANY years...demonize him if you want, but HE'S only a symptom...the disease runs MUCH deeper and flows over both sides of the aisle...

It shouldn't be about Dems vs Reps...or the Right vs the Left...the debate and the reaction should be about the citizenry of this country against the politicians who are screwing it up for all of us as fast as they can go...

[willy]

There is truth to what you say Oz, the enemy of our Republic has only one label, it is called Progressives.
The only caveat I would add to your pronouncement is this.
The Democrat Party has been almost completely co-opted by the progressive fringe, not my words, the words of Democrats running for re-election this year. The few that got re-elected did so by promising to fight against this agenda, some even literally shooting rifles at the ObamaCare Bill hung on a target.
None of the Republicans are being supported by Move On Dot Org,-The Tides Foundation-The AFL-CIO- SEIU- the Communist Party USA-Socialist Party USA-Acorn and dozens of other entities in the media which are bought and paid for by George Soros.
None of the Republicans meet with the Shadow Government Project (literally what they are called) funded by Soros, to organize the down fall of the Republic( their stated objective) and to force civil unrest so that the U.S Gov has no choice but to make sweeping changes in violation of the Constitution seizing power.
No my friend, though some like Lyndsey and Olympia are Progressives that pretend to be moderates, even they do not attend these movements meetings and make speeches. it is the Obamination, Pelosi, Reed and all the other Democrat politicians and leaders that are there enmasse.
With their hands out for money and support. Hillary was one of Soro's darlings that helped him set up Move on Dot Org, and several of his 501C3's, she speaks at all these Soros organization meetings all the time, she is on tape doing it repeatedly, so are a whole bunch of Democrat Pols.
if any of you guys have been watching Beck you will see them, in their own words, on tape, repeatedly saying these things, and our so called Fourth Estate, The Press is intentionally ignoring it because they also have the same agenda.
That is why Beck is vilified in the media, why Fox News is literally come under attack from the Whitehouse, the freaking Whitehouse attacking and organizing opposition against a news agency. Have you ever even heard of such a thing in America. You do now, because of the enemy at our gates,
they are called Progressive's, Socialist's, Fabian Progressive's in England and here, Communists, Left Wingers, and several other names, including much to my sorrow and many of my friends in the know sorrow, Democrats.
Right now in the U.S, the Demo/Socialist Party controls the large population centers, especially where there are mass Union membership and large media outlets which are controlled . These population centers have the majority ( yes now officially the majority ) of people who pay Zero 0 income tax and take more from the federal Govt. (us) than they pay in. This is by calculated design, and they are the ones who are voting themselves more social payments etc. by re-electing these Democrats into office. Also in major urban areas they are calculating the entree of 20-30 million illegals as U.S citizens which of course will vote to give themselves more sh!t, for free. And of course will vote for those politicians who will make sure they get it, trading freedom for freebies means nothing to these people who do not have any stake in the health of our Republic.
No my friend they can be called anything nowadays, but they are Socialist/Progressives and they are completely in control of the once great Democratic Party.

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by willy

There is truth to what you say Oz, the enemy of our Republic has only one label, it is called Progressives.
The only caveat I would add to your pronouncement is this.
The Democrat Party has been almost completely co-opted by the progressive fringe, not my words, the words of Democrats running for re-election this year. The few that got re-elected did so by promising to fight against this agenda.
None of the Republicans are being supported by Move On Dot Org,-The Tides Foundation-The AFL-CIO- SEIU- the Communist Party USA-Socialist Party USA and dozens of other entities in the media which are bought and paid for by George Soros.
None of the Republicans meet with the Shadow Government Project (literally what they are called) funded by Soros, to organize the down fall of the Republic and to force civil unrest so that the U.S Gov has no choice but to make sweeping changes in violation of the Constitution seizing power.
No my friend, though some like Lyndsey and Olympia are Progressives that pretend to be moderates, even they do not attend these movements meetings and make speeches. it is the Obamination, Pelosi, Reed and all the other Democrat politicians and leaders that are there enmasse.
With their hands out for money and support. Hillary was one of Soro's darlings that helped him set up Move on Dot Org, and several of his 501C3's, she speaks at all these Soros organization meetings all the time, she is on tape doing it repeatedly, so are a whole bunch of Democrat Pols.
if any of you guys have been watching Beck you will see them, in their own words, on tape, repeatedly saying these things, and our so called Fourth Estate, The Press is intentionally ignoring it because they also have the same agenda.
That is why Beck is vilified in the media, why Fox News is literally come under attack from the Whitehouse, the freaking Whitehouse attacking and organizing opposition against a news agency. Have you ever even heard of such a thing in America. You do now, because of the enemy at our gates,
they are called Progressive's, Socialist's, Fabian Progressive's in England and here, Communists, Left Wingers, and several other names, including much to my sorrow and many of my friends in the know sorrow, Democrats.

What about the newly elected Republican Representative who railed against health care during his campaign...caught on camera beetchin' about the fact that HIS GOV'T insurance coverage doesn't start for a month...wanna talk about pretenders?...

You say the enemy of our republic are the Progressives..I say it's apathy on the part of those who are caught up in the POLITICAL debate, when it's a GOVERNMENT ISSUE...the point is being MISSED and that's just the way THEY want it...as long as we are down here in the trenches fighting amongst ourselves about left vs right, THEY WIN!!...WE LOSE!!...

[willy]

No one here being apathetic, no one in this election was apathetic, did you see ALL the results, I ask that because a lot of it went un reported by the drive by media.
The largest single victory in history of State Representatives, 486 state house and senate seats changed hands to republican, including hundreds that were in Democratic hands for over three decades.
Governors in states controlled by democrats for decades now Republican.
In 2006 democrat take over of the house with a 36 seat change was called a landslide, a monumental change on the will of the people.
In 2010 the House changed hands with a 64 seat change with I believe a few still pending.
The Tea Party, vilified by the Democrats, mocked, threatened and lambasted by the major media, was the single biggest influence in all of this across the country. They are regular folks like you and me, fed up with the Progressives and what they are doing to our country, regardless of party affiliation took to the streets peacefully, organized, and voted. In the grand tradition of American Citizens standing up for our nation.
No Sir, no apathy here.
No apathy when a TV talk show host can organize the third largest gathering in history on our nation's mall without a political agenda, or support for a political party, no, just an idea of Restoring America and our belief in One Nation Under God.
No, no apathy among all the people I spoke with over the past few months, they are angry, they are scared, and they are tired of what is happening to our nation.
They are going to hold these Republicans and Demo/socialist's feet to the fire.
And maybe some who wish to save it, might do something about organizing American Democrats in to taking back their party, cause right now they are being run by those who would destroy our way of life, destroy the Constitution, destroy the Republic.
And the real biatch of it is the masks have come off and they are all over the place talking about how they are going to do it. On video, in print, in their own words.

[Seacurity]

I had this conversation with someone about 6 months ago. I used to own a thriving Exotic Car Customizing business that did really well for me and my family. I even had a TV show on ESPN! Money wasn't an issue. I have since lost the company, my house, my cars and everything I had worked hard to build up. This was 2 years ago and I am back on my feet now working a job (I haven't worked for someone is 8 years!) making not much more than I did when I was in College. However, thankful to be working!! I am a former teacher and former Air Traffic Controller with multiple degrees and a vast background. I totally believe that, especially here on LI, there will be the lower class barely making it and the upper class thriving off the lower class. It's a rather in depth discussion/debate but being a victim of this I feel first hand where we are headed. This is the reason I am selling my 2 larger 27' and 29' cabin cruisers and getting a smaller trailerable boat that I can afford and manage myself without paying haulers and storage fees. God Bless America!!! ...............