need advice on used outboard purchase...

[macojoe]

Controls with wire harness if needed run like $500 new

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by bsteckel

that suzuki looks real nice .. but my boat can only handle 200 hp!!! arrgh.

what am i looking at for additional costs buying a motor with no controls?

kamikaze .. does your motor have controls? is the power head used? the motor looks real nice.

The extra 25HP wouldn't concern me as much as the 470 pounds of engine weight. That 225HP SUZUKI is easy on fuel, and good top end. There a bit lacking in the bottom end torque department because of there low 2.7L displacement though. I like that 150 that kamikaze has for sale, it would be IDEAL for your project.

[bsteckel]

thanks, ferm. i sent an email to the guy with the 88 black max to see if it is indeed a 2.0 motor.

kamikaze... your motor sounds good, not sure what the older style power head means .. good, bad, neither. shipping would be the next question. would you consider shipping this motor? what is missing from the motor (controls, prop, etc) that i would need to scrounge up?

it is better to buy new controls as macojoe says for $500? i guess old cables could be a problem???

[bsteckel]

called the guy with the black max 175 .. states it is the type with seperate tilt/trim pump,etc...

gave me the serial number 5320623 .. can you tell if this is a 2.0L ??

thanks

[kamikaze]

bsteckel:

Motor as a ignition harness but no controls for throttle and shift, or trim/tilt and there is no prop either. I'd be willing to ship it but would rather have you come and hear it run first. If your going to spend the money I don't suspect it's that far of a drive for you (then again I have gone to Miami to pick up a boat before so I have no problem with driving!)

Older powerhead is just that (80's) mounted on a 1994 engine As THERM said MERC made a ton of these engines. When I got the motor the powerhead had two bad cylinders (oil reservoir hose came off at the injector and it didn't take long after for the problem to set in after that! - thus why the oil injection system is now removed.)

Instead of rebuilding the original powerhead, I purchased a older used 135 HP 2.0L powerhead off of Screamandfly.com. Suspect powerhead was rebuilt at sometime as the welch plug isn't stamp with a model number and typically they are. I rebuilt the carbs from the original powerhead and reinstalled them on the replacement ,bring it back to a 150. Believe the stator and trigger have been recently replaced as well based on their appearance alone.

Kamikaze

[bsteckel]

i stumbled across a 1995 150 merc ... but it is a 2.5, not a 2.0

what are the pros/cons of the 2.5 vs 2.0?

comes with controls and stainless prop ... under 200 hrs asking price is $2000 .. compression is good at 125lbs in all holes. motor tested on ddt tester (not sure what that is) with no problems.

of course, this is what was told to me.

sounds like a good price

guy with the yamaha for sale seems to be very busy .. not sure why you would advertise something for sale and then never be available to sell it????

[THEFERMANATOR]

Since you say it was tested on a DDT, I'm assuming it's an EFI. If so it is one THIRSTY SOB, believe me I have one. They have torque that is out of this world though for a small V-6, but that 12-13 gallons per hour at cruise is a killer. Also a 25" shaft 2.5L EFI weighs in around 425 pounds. If I was considering a 2.5L, I would go with a 200HP for the reduced cruising RPM's. This will give you an idea of the fuel burn for a 2.5L 150, the older engines are close but slightly higher(about 5-8% more fuel burn).

http://www.mercurymarine.com/look_de...p5090150efi=20

[bsteckel]

how much more fuel does the 2.5 150 burn at cruise than the 2.0 150?

there must be some advantage for efi? less smoke? better response?

thanks

[THEFERMANATOR]

The EFI is easier to start, and runs a little smoother. Many say the carb motors are actually btter on fuel than the EFI, and they both use the same oil injection pump so oil consumption on oil injected models is the same. The EFI I have does have INCREDIBLE off idle performance compared to my 2.0L. I know my 2.5L 150 EFI burns 12-13 GPH on an 18' flats boat, I have a 2L 150 on a 17.6' bass boat that burns about 4-5 GPH at the same cruise speed and RPM's. The bass boat is lighter, but the 2.L is alot better IMO. The 2.0L will use a little more fuel at idle due to porting inside the engine, and the 2.5L has ALOT more torque.

[bsteckel]

wow, that is almost double the fuel consumption ... is there that much difference in weight between the 2 boats ?..

that 2.5 is 35 lbs heavier approx than the yamaha i am looking at .. and 40 lbs heavier than the 2.0 150 .. not a huge difference.but coming with controls and a ss prop, that is less things that i have to buy. unless the ss prop that came with my sea drive would fit, then the controls is the only difference.

but double the fuel consumption ... wow.