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Unread 07-13-2006, 11:11 AM
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Hammer, I think Advance Auto Parts carries Sea Foam. Its available in a an aerosol can which is labeled "Deep Creep" this is what you want if you plan on decarbing your engine directly through the carb throats. Or if you prefer to add it to the tank than its available in a regular can that you can add it to the fuel system.
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Unread 07-13-2006, 12:08 PM
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You can get Sea Foam and Deep Creep at NAPA also. NAPA carries alot of marine related items.
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No offense taken BigPimpin. I simply was concerned about accumulating additional h20 in my tank and having problems at sea. By the way, you are correct in saying it would take years for ethanol to pull water out of the air, but my concern is simpler. Existing water in gas tanks will cause the ethanol to phase separate, meaning you will be running low octane fuel and not know it. Also water commonly exists in tanks at gas stations, you could be buying gas that has already phase separated. Low octane in high RPM outboards is a concern.

PS: I am a chemist who works in the environmental industry. This is my profession.
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For a moment there I thought you slept at a Red Roof Inn last night!



Just kidding! Thanks for the info . Billy Mac ;D
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Unread 07-13-2006, 01:04 PM
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Big Pimpin LMFAO you guys are funny

BS it's not just a scare based on a rumor, I have talked to my friends at the marina and one of the biggest Boat Dealers on the east coast, they have already seen ethanol based problems and have diagnosed it directly to it's use. Some very large and expensive boats are also being hit with problems and a bunch of little guys like me. I have never been one to run around waiting for the sky to fall but there is definetly some type of problem and I would like to take whatever precautions I can.

And Hammer what BS said is right on the money, the difference is whether you want to decarb once or twice a year depending on your use and season or do you want to use something to keep it decarbed all the time. Thats the route I went and I also like the idea that it cleans your carbs while being used prevents deposits and build ups there and helps to eliminate moisture in your tank. So its all good if you know what I mean ;)
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Is Star-Tron the same as Sea Foam???

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...allpartial/0/0
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Regi - I'm curious what evidence california presented to show we don't need an oxygenators in our fuel.

http://pubs.acs.org/cen/topstory/7934/7934notw4.html

http://feinstein.senate.gov/03Releas...nol-8-6-03.htm

http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/prog...TS_NEW/459/1/0

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...AG04H9IQG1.DTL


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It seems their arguments are more emissions based. California has the one toughest Environmental Protection Agencies in the country. Do not get me wrong I am concerned about the effects of either additive but I like to do my homework to avoid problems in the future, especially when it cuts down on my time to fish!!! It seems sea foam, filling tank all the way in winter, and regular checking of water separtor is the best solution.to date. I happen to have an I/O so I am less concerned about engine wear. Looks like Willy had it licked from the start of the post.
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Unread 07-13-2006, 06:15 PM
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Parish I don't really know, definetly a diffrent product line but they reportedly do the same thing, except it says it does it for twelve months, I don't understand that. Sea Foam treats a certain amount of gas, just like oil/fuel mix.
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I think what they're sayin' Willy is that if you dont burn the treated fuel right away, or soon, it still remains effective for up to a year
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