Anchor bow roller install

[Pipe_Dream]

Originally Posted by scook

It may not be relevant to how you use your anchors, but here’s my program:
When the rats got into my 3/8” line, I had already purchased 1/2” for easier grip (not for strength - the 3/8” held in very strong current, even bent my anchor when it got caught under a big rock). I now have a bunch of really nice rope to tie stuff on my truck.
I have three lengths of anchor line for different depths. This is so I don’t have a huge gob of line to toss overboard with a float when we drop off the anchor to play a fish and can come back to the same spot.
I connect the line to the chain with an openable link, so I can switch lines easily and it lets me leave the chain on deck, coiled around the bow cleat and drop the line into a basket in the cuddy.
This works for me, probably because I’ve rigged the sliding hatch to come completely off and stow in a rack under the deck - those hatches are a big pain for doing anchor work.

Sounds like you definitely have it sorted out!

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

WHY are you using chain, or is that just for the end of the rode? And for heavens ske, why 5/16"? This is a 20 foot boat that at best could be called either light weight or medium weight. It's not a heavy weight boat, and even if it were, for it's length you would only be using 3/16 PC (Proof Coil) chain with 3/8 nylon rope.

Personally, I like and use 1/2" nylon rope with 1/4 PC chain at the end, mostly because I like how it feels in my hands, NOT because of additional strength. Just pay attention to your line length (8:1 ratio) and you'll have no problems. Here's a good link for info on chain, line and all the hardware you will need. https://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvis...ur-Anchor-Rode

I am not using chain, Just for the end of the rode. The deck pipe is for chain, but i figured i would get a bigger opening. I was wavering between 5/8 and 1/2 for the rope and decided might go bigger based on what i was reading on the interweb . So the chain is half the dia of the rope and that's where i came up with the 5/16. I guess it's not too late, I can still return the rope via amazon. I guess I could step down to 1/2" rope and 1/4" inch chain like your setup. I guess i wanted to be safer than sorry

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

5/8" line is way too much. Bigger is not better.

Too expensive when someday you have to cut off (and your expensive anchor)...
You need too much room to store it!
300ft only gets you 60ft deep on a nice day. You'll be lucky to get 300ft of 5/8" in there.

3/8 ...7/16" is nice for pulling.

1/4" chain. 15' of 5/16 is too heavy.

That deck pipe will not fit chain. I have one in the 'never gonna use this" pile in my garage. You need the bigger round one or the oval one. I drilled a hole in deck and inside cabin to get to anchor locker. used a piece of cheap landscape drainage pipe siliconed between holes.

I saw a picture on the Mantis site of a Mantis in the same pivoting roller as mine.

here is a pic of the deck pipe

I understand, I was just trying to be conservative. Like i said before I might go with 1/2" rope and 1/4" chain. I had to get a better setting anchor because I am not good at it and the danforth i had has pulled loose a couple of times especially when it was not a sandy bottom. With the kids on board I want to make sure its as safe as possible. I also don't usually anchor in 20-30 ft depth, rarely in 60 ft water except at the lake and that in fairly calm conditions.

So with the deck pipe did you have to run a pipe inside too? It's manual pulling right now from my end, so I was just hoping to just install that on top pull up the rope and then feed it into the anchor locker from the cuddy once done. I am actually thinking i might put the deck pipe on the sliding top.. will post some pics once I have that figured out
Would you mind posting a pic of the installation from the inside when you have a chance, there really isn't much info out there on how to install in the WWW.

Much obliged,
Cheers
Ashok

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by scook

Intuitively, the roller would bear the vertical vector force and the cleat the horizontal. If you’re not in much of a current, those forces shouldn’t be much of an issue. Out here in the Columbia River it’s a very big deal - an anchor rope fouled in the propeller, so the boat is anchored at the stern can and has sunk boats.

Current can be a bit of an issue in the Bay here, depending on where and when I guess.

Thanks so I guess I should plan on the roller bearing forces. so the chucks in the side won't be used anymore i guess, just the bow cleat.


Much obliged,
Cheers
Ashok

[scook]

In the river here, the Salmon and Steelhead tend to travel in very narrow seams, almost single file. We use the chucks or sometimes a short line off the chuck or bow rail stanchion to pull the anchor line off center to angle the boat and move it a little sideways, trying to position over the lane the fish are using to run upstream. Maybe not so useful in the bay???

That requires lifting the line off the roller - if you’re doing that, you’ll need to remove the loop over the top of the line on the roller device.

[steplift20]

You don't need a bow pulpit, I like that looks good too and very useable , what backing plate did you use? Large washers or a plate? Once you start drilling into the deck ( scares me) there is no turning back . And then how do you run the chain and rode? Just let it hang or do you disconnect it and hook it up when you use it?

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by steplift20

You don't need a bow pulpit, I like that looks good too and very useable , what backing plate did you use? Large washers or a plate? Once you start drilling into the deck ( scares me) there is no turning back . And then how do you run the chain and rode? Just let it hang or do you disconnect it and hook it up when you use it?

Is this directed towards me?

[steplift20]

Yes or any other Steplift owners who have a anchor roller . Sorry I took so long to reply

[scook]

A couple of things:

I used fender washers and it gets pulled on pretty hard - no issues so far.

The offer of my roller that wasn’t suitable for anchoring in the river current is still good if any of you guys want it for the shipping cost. I’m cleaning stuff out and try to send the good things to good homes when I can.

[pjbrownva]

General update on my progress...

I love the tilting anchor roller I bought.
I got some SS hardware, drilled holes and mounted it and...

My anchor is big enough that it could hit the fiberglass.

A friend gave me several pieces of scrap epe wood (brazilian hard wood), so that I can make a bow pulpit to get the roller further away from the deck.

I'm thinking that I'll use a piece of epe inside the cabin too to serve as my backing plate, along with large fender washers.

Reading other people's posts, I guess I went overboard.

I have 300' of woven 1/2 nylon anchor line, plus 10' of 1/2" chain (I *think*),
and I got a 13 lb Rocna anchor, plus a fairly large Fortress anchor, so I can swap out anchors if and as needed, and/or have a spare.

I also have 200' of twisted 3 strand nylon rope... my thinking is if I need more than 300', I'll tie the existing line through the eye of the 200', and suddenly have 500'.

So... I'm not sure when I'll get to the epe fabrication part.
I'm torn between using "PL Construction adhesive" or epoxy to bond pieces
of wood together to make the pulpit wider and thicker.

I'll use 3M 4000 UV, or maybe fast cure 5200 when I mount it.
I took off the cleat, and moved the bow lights.

I'm not worried about the holes in the deck. 5200 in them, then lots of 5200 around them when I install the pulpit, and I think they'll become a non-issue.

I went with the 1/2 line because I read that thinner line can be tough on your hands.

I have an inexpensive plastic deck pipe. I don't know if it's best to mount it near to the bow, or nearer the windshield on the starboard side... the thought would be that I could open the walk-through windshield, and deploy or retrieve the anchor right from the cabin. I'd put a laundry basket below to catch the rope.

Not sure... this is all new to me, but I like the idea of anchoring and retrieving from the cockpit... it also seems like a real plus for when I'm fishin' alone.

More to come. O.P. -- please let us know how you make out.

-Philip