Rod holder ?

[garbubba]

My 83 V came from Florida & someone was using it for trolling like you want to do. It has two outrigger mounts forward, a pair of rod holders angled out as much as possible behind that, and two more straight back. That's a lot of lines in a small boat.

[BillTex]

Originally Posted by garbubba

My 83 V came from Florida & someone was using it for trolling like you want to do. It has two outrigger mounts forward, a pair of rod holders angled out as much as possible behind that, and two more straight back. That's a lot of lines in a small boat.

Nice...some pics would be great...

Tx, Bill

[BillTex]

Hi all, someone over on THT suggested 0* swivel rod holders all around. This would certainly address the gunnel clearance issue with the V20, and enable positioning the rods as needed for trolling, drifting, etc.

I can't for the life of me see why this isn't a great solution...any thoughts?

Seems like the best idea...

Tx, Bill

[SkunkBoat]

do you have bent butt rods?? Otherwise, where are you going to swivel?

[BillTex]

Hey skunk
Last two boats had swivels just in rear corners. Fished straight stand ups , no bent butts. Swivel always kept the rod/guides/line in optimal direction no matter where the fish ran.
We usually fish short handed...2 or 3. When you get Multiple hook ups one rod may sit in a holder for a while

Those boats were rigged when i purchased them. The v has no holes in it...a blank slate
Trying to "measure 2x...cut once"...

Back in the day we just dropped a golf ball in the rod holder...that was our "swivel"

Tx, bill

[SkunkBoat]

That's fine for the corner and fighting a fish but you want to spread multiple lines while trolling and not have them cross on a hookup.

Use an outrodder in a 0* fwd of the rod box and a "Kite" double rod holder in a 30* straight back furthest aft. The the lower rod gets a flat line clip, upper line will be the wfb line

[SkunkBoat]

here is a shot of my rig trolling for bft/mahi.
This is before I mounted the GemLux rod holders aft.

Here, on each side, I have 0* fwd of rod box running to outrigger, 30* aft of rod box running wtfb, and flatline in a surface mount rodholder near the "bait bin" angled abeam

oh...and a wwwtfb up in the top down the middle

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[BillTex]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

That's fine for the corner and fighting a fish but you want to spread multiple lines while trolling and not have them cross on a hookup.

Use an outrodder in a 0* fwd of the rod box and a "Kite" double rod holder in a 30* straight back furthest aft. The the lower rod gets a flat line clip, upper line will be the wfb line

Thanks-yes agree-so what you are suggesting is there is no point in using swivels other than at transom?

The other 2 positions can be fixed (no advantage to swivel)?

Your suggestion (correct me if wrong);
Transom corners = 0* swivels
Mid gunnel = 30* fixed
Closest to helm = 0* fixed with outrodder

Assuming you can place 2 rods in each outrodder-this would actually allow me to fish 8 lines?! Might get a little tight if I can't spread them out enough...

Edit; skink do you have a pick of the cockpit/gunnels while you are running that spread shown in the pic above?

Thank you!

Bill

P.s. Love your setup with the hard top and riggers...

[SkunkBoat]

0* corners is a problem because, while trolling, the line from the 30* will hit it if you don't have a bent butt rod in the 0*

The key is to have the tips of the rods such that while trolling AND when hooked up, the line from a forward rod doesn't tangle an aft rod tip.

the double rodholder does that by putting the rear rod lower than the forward rod. I would use this as pictured, both rods pointed aft. The forward rod on a long outrigger and the aft rod on the short rigger(assuming you have large outriggers. the riggers on my boat would not allow a long & short.). I would not point the double rodholder type outward while trolling.
The single outrodder type is made for that.(use a safety lanyard)

On our V20s you are going to be hard pressed to run 8 lines, especially without outriggers. The most I've run is 7 and it ain't easy, even when you're NOT catching fish.
I've run 5 without outriggers no problem but riggers make a better spread

[BillTex]

0* in corners would be on clips...but I see your point.

One of the challenges-as you know-is they limited space we have in our gunnels.

I have made some 3d models (solid works) that I can use as templates and determine just how much room I have. (Before cutting holes!). It appears that 15* holders will provide some flexibility in how i orient the holders (straight back/angles out)...so after the weather breaks...and I get the snow off the boat...i will lay it all out. I am thinking maybe 15*'s all around.

If i put 2 in tight at transom (i think i can fit them in splashwell area) on clips for flat lines. And then 2 in each gunnel...i should be able to fish a 6 rod spread (maybe 7 with a wfb right up the middle).

I'll fish like this for a season and see how it goes. Maybe a hard top...and/or riggers are in my future. Our Grady had riggers and they sure helped with the spread...

Why do you recommend not to point rods "out" using outriders? Are they not robust enough to hold the rod? (I have never used these...).

Thanks again, Bill