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BillTex 12-22-2016 09:22 PM

Rod holder ?
 
Ok...I understand flush mounted rod holders are too long unless you cut through the rods boxes. Which you may not want to do due to drainage issues.

What if I place (teak?) wood spacers under the flange of the rod holders to lift them up enough?

Any reason this wouldn't work?

I cannot seem to find any good picture threads of flush mount rod holders...can anyone point me to some good pics that point out the issue?

Tx, Bill

Destroyer 12-23-2016 05:41 AM

Hmmm ... well, the holders are exactly that... holders... so their placement isn't all the critical. My downriggers have to built in holders each, so that's 4, plus 1 holder at the stern after the rod boxes, so that's 6 plus another one on each side in front of the rod boxes, so that's 8 (4 without the DR's) Point is, figure out how many you really need and place accordingly. Oh, and lets not forget the rod boxes themselves.. 6 there, but I keep my boat hook there also, so that's 5 available... and of course the cuddy for storage
... you get the idea...

BillTex 12-23-2016 06:36 AM

I should have been more clear; these would be for trolling (not rod storage). Lead line for stripers and off shore for tuna.
They need to be solid-they will get whacked hard.

Flushmounted in the gunnels will be required. I will need 6-8 holders.

I see a lot of old threads here that say the standard SS rod holders are too long and will require cutting in to the rod boxes and create a leak path to the hull liner.

A nice wood spacer under the flange of the rod holder may give enough lift to avoid this...does anyone know how much spacer I would need 1"? 2"?

Tx, Bill

phatdaddy 12-23-2016 07:35 AM

I think i'd rather have the bottom on the rod holder sticking through the top of the rod box than raise them on the gunnell 2-3 inches. I troll for mackeral and grouper and can only drag 2 rods at a time.

How many will u be trolling with?

jvitiel 12-23-2016 09:02 AM

Not a great picture but in mine the holder protrudes about 1.5" to 2" through the top of the rod box and to a lesser extent through the rear. It pretty much drains into the cockpit and a little baffle work could ensure that it completely drains into the cockpit. It sticks too far down to use a shim on top of the gunwale IMO but maybe you could split the difference with a 1" shim and trim an inch off the bottom of the holder? Maybe just trim the lower corner off of the holder or maybe move the pin up some too and then cut a bit more off. Note that if you don't cut the rod box, the holder will drain 100% into the hull liner so covers or drain tubes will be needed.

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/...pstfew4nb6.jpg

BillTex 12-23-2016 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jvitiel (Post 230722)
Not a great picture but in mine the holder protrudes about 1.5" to 2" through the top of the rod box and to a lesser extent through the rear. It pretty much drains into the cockpit and a little baffle work could ensure that it completely drains into the cockpit. It sticks too far down to use a shim on top of the gunwale IMO but maybe you could split the difference with a 1" shim and trim an inch off the bottom of the holder? Maybe just trim the lower corner off of the holder or maybe move the pin up some too and then cut a bit more off. Note that if you don't cut the rod box, the holder will drain 100% into the hull liner so covers or drain tubes will be needed.

Thank you...that explains a LOT. I'll measure everything...but now that I understand I don't think I'll have any problem cutting through the rod box. Seems to be a non-issue. I was having a hard understanding what the problem was until you posted this...

Edit; I would be trolling 6-8 rods for tuna...

Thx, bill

SkunkBoat 12-23-2016 04:25 PM

before you go cutting holes...

The other problem you will encounter is that you cannot angle them out in a normal trolling spread. The gunnel is not wide enough to mount them outward at 45 and 90 degrees. 6 rods all pointed straight back make a tight spread!

I have 3 in each gunnel...i'll try & find a picture...

forward of the rod box is a 0 degree (straight up,this is for drifting not trolling), aft of the rod box is a 30* straight back and in the far stern I have a 30degree angled out 90 degrees. There is room back there but you have to remove the "bait bins" and use a special rod holder from GEM that doesnt have mounting screws

phatdaddy 12-23-2016 06:21 PM

I can't troll two without a mess, can't imagine pulling 6/8.

bradford 12-23-2016 06:27 PM

Not a fisherman so take it with a grain of salt, I have just 2 30 degree rod holders mounted aft of the rod boxes, no cutting required. Have seen them mounted on the forward edge of the splash well, would probably need to be 0 degrees. Lumberslinger has a nice custom rod holder setup that transverses his splashwell. Would look pretty nice for what you need I would think. I don't think the spacers would look good. If I were going to go that route I would have full length teak covering boards from just aft of the side windsheilds to the back edge next to the lazarette storage hatch/boxes.

Get a bunch of good ideas and opinions before you cut holes. As soon as you do someone will chime in with the perfect functional and ergonomic solution.

BillTex 12-23-2016 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat (Post 230725)
before you go cutting holes...

The other problem you will encounter is that you cannot angle them out in a normal trolling spread. The gunnel is not wide enough to mount them outward at 45 and 90 degrees. 6 rods all pointed straight back make a tight spread!

I have 3 in each gunnel...i'll try & find a picture...

Yeah...for sure would need to be angled. I haven't measured yet...but really the gunnels are that narrow? Where is the problem...the width of the flange vs the gunnel?

Pics would be great if you can find them.

I am trying to have a plan for all these mods so I can get busy in the spring. Unfortunately I picked up the boat 2 weeks ago and brought it home and covered it up right away before snow storm the next day...

Well, anyway...if you Guys don't mind I'll keep asking questions...it'll give us something to do over the winter. If we can't work on boats...at least we can talk about working on boats!

What about the swivel rod holders...anybody try those in a V20?

Thanx, Bill


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