god bless

[reelapeelin]

The world's economy may be better off, but last I checked, OURS is in the crapper...

War profiteering has existed forever and will continue til the last war...problem w/this one is it was started in order to profit by a country I always thought of as a democracy that should hold itself above such trickery...

No...I don't believe revenge was the only issue...of course not...but why did he say that?...can anybody tell me why the President of the United States stood there and said that?...

[nipper]

I for one do not believe we are better off having fought the war in Iraq than had we not. The radical islamic factions hate us even more now, and, quite frankly, I am surprised we have not had more attacks since 9/11. In any event, may god bless our country and our brave troops, who are only following orders and doing incredible things.

[willy]

Oz the whole worlds economy is suffering right now. Believe it or not our country is doing much better than all of europe and asia, the dollar has been gaining strenth. Is it all good, hell no but the economy is suffering here for two major reasons, the huge increases in cost of energy and the huge correction we are going thru in the housing market and the combination of greed and stupidity from mortgage bankers.
To say something like this war was started to make money is quite frankly a page out of the Pelosi Dean Feinstein play book and what was said to dimish this president, diminish our troops and to turn the people against our war effort for political gain.
And now that victory is in sight the same people want to forfeit.
If you think that the economy is bad, imagine what would have happened if Kerry had gotten in, the loss of life from further aggression, here HERE the cost of energy controlled by Iran, the mullahs.
Nipper you may be right, I do not have a crystal ball, but the aggressive pursuit of the scum trying to take over the world by controlling the flow of oil and the destruction of civilian life, the footprint of US troops in the middle east, the complete and rapid destruction of two of the most deadly and brutal regimes in the middle east has most certainly kept you and me and our families safer because our response was immediate and succesful against regimes that the middle east considered tough, undefeatable and protected by Allah.
Now they have to rethink that one because apparently Allah likes US Marines too.
As a matter of fact they also have to commit their recources now to preventing for the first time a democracy, of Muslims!! right smack dab in the middle of them.
If after you think about that, and you realize that our country has not been touched for GW's two terms and you can honestly say you don't believe we are safer because of what our brave troops have done there then I guess we will just have to agree to disagree

[phatdaddy]

No, I don't think the only reason we went to war was revenge for sr, i think there were a lot of reasons, some good , some bad. after 9-11 everybody wanted somebody to pay for that. i can't believe after 7 years, they can't find the guy who masterminded & funded the attack. as far as the economy, i think lawyers & insurance companys are more of a drain on the working man than oil ceos. at least when i pay $4.00 a gallon, i can drive10 or 12 miles( i own a dodge) to a job to work & get paid. i just cut $4000 checks for health, car,& homeowner ins. & don't plan on using any one of them.

besides i'm from the wood stock generation

"Tax the rich
feed the poor,
till there is
no rich no more" Alvin Lee , Ten Years After...............

sounded like a good idea in the summer of '69

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by phatdaddy

besides i'm from the wood stock generation

"Tax the rich
feed the poor,
till there is
no rich no more" Alvin Lee , Ten Years After...............

sounded like a good idea in the summer of '69

This explains alot about our current state of affairs, and many peoples mindset.

[phatdaddy]

thats the irony of it ferm, it was ok in 69 when i was surfing up and down the coast & living in a van, now that i'm old and paying taxes, it ain't so good......
so you young guys, be careful what you wish for.

[THEFERMANATOR]

I may be a young-un, but anybody that knows me will tell you that I'm more like a 50+ year old guy. Most of my friends were my dad's age because people my age just didn't think or act like me. I personally feel that nobody in this world owes me ANYTHING, and that I'm the only one who can help me. I don't believe that the government should control society, or even have a strong influence upon it. I know that I cannot talk politics with my girlfriend because she always says that I am a cold callused monster. I know that my ideals are probably not the best, but they are how I feel.

I personally was really hoping for RON PAUL to have a dog in this fight for this election, he was the one canidate who shared many of my views. I don't feel we should be the worlds babysitter rendering aid every time something happens. I feel that our military should leave areas where we fought wars years back. The middle east is just a small portion of our troops and military spending. What about GERMANY, KOREA, or GRENADA? Not to mention the countless other areas we still have a military presence in? As for the whole middle east scenario. If CLINTON would have finished the job, we wouldn't have had to gone back in there again. CLINTON had intel and numerous oportunities to have stopped al quida years ago, yet he was to busy playing swallow the leader with MONICA.

Our nation has let itself be consumed by it's government, we simply went from having a monarchy overseas to one within our borders. Our government has been funding so many covert operations for decades now leading up to our current situation that it would make many sick beyond belief. But that is the hand that we dealt ourselves by rendering ourself's into sheeple and allowing a small group of people to control the masses. Obama is just the puppet to finish off there plans, but then again McCain isn't much better. I'll go back to my conspiracy theorist layer now.

[parishht]

I just got done talking to one of my co-workers that is doing a two year
stint in Germany.
He tells me that people inthis country should be careful what they are wishing for.
Germans pay approx 50% income tax, 19% sales tax on everything they purchase
and gas is $9.00 a gallon because of taxes, ALL TO PAY FOR SOCIALIZED MEDICAL CARE.
Just look at our neighbors in CANADA, they are having health care issues.
People are dying because they cannot get a quick appointment with their doctor.

"Tax the rich feed the poor."
Problem in our country is that the rich and the porr have the most say,
so the middle class pays for everything.

Pure Socialist, Pure communist societies would work,
except that people get in the way.