Info Merc Opti 150 - Page 2

willy · #11 05-20-2008, 07:26 AM

Thanks Ferm, Spare, Air and all. Still can't decide what to do. I love the boat and do not like the engine and that is an uncomfortable position to be in. I am trying to think of a creative way to swap out engine but nothing reasonable, cost wise comes to mind.

randlemanboater · #12 05-20-2008, 07:31 AM

Willy, for that kind of green you can find one that is exactly what you want......No point in spending that much on something that worries you.

willy · #13 05-20-2008, 07:33 AM

That may be where I am heading Randle

Airslot · #14 05-20-2008, 08:19 AM

Willy,

Ask them for a compression, leakdown, computer scan, and seatrail. Those are the steps that my merc dealer would do when taking an engine in on trade.

cterrebonne · #15 05-20-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Airslot

Willy,

If you do any reading on THT, the OPTI's have the best rep of any of the DFI engines over there. They do like a fully charged battery. I've been able to run a pair of 225's for quite a few hours. For what its worth, I WAS planning on hanging a 150 OPTI on mine this summer. Looks like I may have to wait until spring...

be careful what you read on THT, they absoloutly hate e-tecs there and worship yamaha, so their opinions will be biased. i never understood the whole yamaha worshiping either.

C YENSEN · #16 05-20-2008, 09:15 AM

willy.......any pics or am I missing pics in the other thread you were talking about?

Blue_Runner · #17 05-20-2008, 10:22 AM

Willy, not to throw stones at the Mercury people out there either but Ferm raises some valid fear factors regarding that particular engine. If you figure what that boat and trailer is worth - and I can tell ya I paid $6500 for mine which had a brand new galvinized dual axle and the older Yamaha 150 that I regretibly sold to MJ and turned out to be crap - for 10 g's that would mean the motor is valued somewhere around $4500 - $5000. I don't think so.....

I say pitch up an offer for just the boat and trailer for around $5000 - $5500. If the owner thinks the motor is worth $4500 - $5000, then he should not have any problem getting it by selling the motor separately - right?

Then hang a Zuki 150hp 4 stroke and you will have one hell of a boat!

Best of luck - I feel for your perdicament. I hope like hades you can work it out so we can be V-21 brothers. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help - like take my billy club to the owner's head!

Blue

THEFERMANATOR · #18 05-20-2008, 10:37 AM

I've been Emailing with a marine surveyor lately who has been giving me some advice on the price of my PRO-LINE, and his advice is to a buyer price as though the engine isn't there if it's out of warranty. Like has been mentioned, a compressor and or fuel rail problem would pretty much be cause for a repower with an OPTI. I was going to re=power my HYDRA with one since the EVINRUDE needs work, but after doing some homework decided the fuel savings may not be worth it in the end. ALL of the DFI'S have there issues, and the OPTIMAX seems to be the best one from 2003+. If it is in fact an 01 with an 03 powerhead, it is still an 01 engine essentially. And 01 was the problematic year, unless it has had the close to $2K(what I have read) worth of updates to the injectors and rail as well as T-stats and some had some cooling hose re-routing. And all of this still has not fixed them all.

This is where having a surveyor REALLY helps. If you have one that knows these engines, he will know what to look for. And having a survey saying the engine and hull are worth X amount really helps when trying to bargain with a dealer. Like I put in the other post, that boat had ran on Ebay several times last year and never sold. Wonder if others had it surveyed as well and passed because of it. If the hull is solid and the engine is your concern, make him an offer on just the hull minus the engine and rigging. Then repower to your choice and be happy in the end.

willy · #19 05-20-2008, 12:44 PM

Air and Ferm that is what I already did this morning, he is suggesting off the top of his head that he needs to get 7g's for the hull and 2007 dual trailer
zuki dealer wants 12600 plus tax for 150

etec all in would be approx 14500

and Yammi I am waiting to hear about

A lot of money

THEFERMANATOR · #20 05-20-2008, 01:05 PM

You can find SUZUKI 150's for $8500 plus rigging WILLY, and ETEC's pop up on EBAY for $10-12K pretty regularly. Don't fear an OPTI either WILLY. The new ones are better on fuel than any other outboard out there right now, and are known to be reliable. If you have 4-6 years of warranty, that will give you time to see if you like it or not. If it gives you problems, then there is always lemon law. I'm not downing any of the newer outboards, but they aint for me. And the ETEC is nice, but your paying a premium for that BOMBARDIER advertising. A YAMAHA F150 4 stroke though would be a good match as well.