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Unread 11-08-2012, 03:31 PM
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Spot on assessment of where we are as a once free nation.



Have to disagree here. Lincoln spawned fedzilla with his unconstitutional acts against sovereign States and citizens in the Northern War of Aggression.

The following is quoted from a review of "The Constitution in Exile", by Judge Andrew Napolitano -

Lincoln destroyed the union of the founding fathers. He "replaced a voluntary association of states with a strong centralized government. The president and his party eagerly lifted the floodgates to the modern thuggish style of ruling that the U.S. government now employs" (emphasis added). This "opened the door to more unconstitutional acts by the government in the 1900s through to today."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo138.html
Agreed.

Add to that:

The 14th amendment.

Creation of the federal reserve in 1912/1913, additionally the IRS.

Creation of Socialist INSecurity and gold confiscation by that bastard roosevelt (How many times was he elected?...... HMMMMMMM).

Removal of the gold standard by nixon.

The situation we find ourselves in is much bigger and deeper and has been going on for much longer than what 99% of the people think. People should research on their own instead of relying on corporate owned media to tell them whats going on. THEY ALL LIE!
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Agreed.

Add to that:

The 14th amendment.

Creation of the federal reserve in 1912/1913, additionally the IRS.

Creation of Socialist INSecurity and gold confiscation by that bastard roosevelt (How many times was he elected?...... HMMMMMMM).

Removal of the gold standard by nixon.

The situation we find ourselves in is much bigger and deeper and has been going on for much longer than what 99% of the people think. People should research on their own instead of relying on corporate owned media to tell them whats going on. THEY ALL LIE!
True. All were designed to strengthen fedzilla.

You expect people to actually do research on their own? That would take time away from cruising the web or watching American Idol. Why bother? The newsies are all fair and balanced professionals. I mean, crap, I saw it on the TV, so it must be true.
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yo-daday, this will get you started, its boring, but its very informative http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=_vM2r5CXP3kC you'll get tired of hearing about Charleston. It explains a lot about the origins of the Democratic party and their efforts to reintroduce the caste system of government to this country.

Thomas Sowell fills in a lot of gaps that Wikipedia and other on line reference leaves. Search u-tube for Thomas Sowell, beyond that
you'll have to get books to get facts, there's a lot that's been edited for the internet that they don't want to remind anyone about. I did a search for the Democratic party time line of events the other day, funny thing, they left that whole slavery/civil war off their time line,

While your searching Thomas Sowell, this is a pretty good video to watch as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwqho...eature=related


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T. Sowell is brilliant.

I think that there are greedy capitalist's, there are greedy politicians.
But I also believe it is highly pessimistic to subscribe that generalization to millions of companies and thousands of politicians.
I also believe that sex and money have made the world go around since Adam first munched the carpet and the apple.
But to take a company from a idea to a major corporation is exactly what capitalism is all about.
And the men and women who did those things also built our railroads, cities, communications, medical facilities, international trade, automobiles, computers, telephones.
You get the drift.
They also brought art, science, museums, culture where there was none before.
So, yea. They DID build that and they deserve to reap the rewards and they should be able to influence legislation that will prevent others from taking what they built etc.
It is life. It is the human condition.
While I agree that certain reigns need to be put on them by "We the People" through our elected representatives so that there is a fair competition in the market place I believe it is very idealistic, or utopian to believe we are going to eliminate it.
What you have in a Statist, Socialist, Communist or Progressive systems is a hierarchy of government rulers deciding the winners and losers, not the customers. The ruling class elite who add ZERO value to society as a whole pick those winners and losers to increase their power, wealth and ego.
All the while maintaining the masses to do their bidding by doling out the table scraps to them.
Meanwhile no one rises, no one succeeds and society as a whole moves through life as sheep.
Creativity dies. Exceptional ism does not exist.
This is the life that these societies all through history experienced. And when the population expressed some resistance they were killed, sometimes in the millions.
No, I think I will do much better in a capitalist society, even with its greedy head and dirty politician sometimes rearing up.
And I do not expect perfection in life, but I do expect an opportunity.
And when all is said and done, every single swinging richard in this country has that in spades.
To say they don't is an outright lie.
So now, we have in our nation a population that votes itself more free sh!t from those people, called the "rich" by the current keepers of the socialist/progressive agenda who are in power, and social justice when under threat of force they confiscate the earnings of others to render to those they deem their power base a cradle to grave existence. Notice I said existence, because if you are kept by keeper and dependent on him for your very existence you are not living, you are not thriving. You are a slave.
And here is where we stand.
About half this country is working and paying the freight for the other half.
And many have fallen for the propaganda that it is the greedy rich, the evil corporations and the capitalists that have done this to us. Or some version of that scheme.
Some would have you believe we can only take action by throwing them all out, or that we can only fix things by eliminating money and sex from those that hold office.
We can fix it by eliminating greed, or some other generalized claim such as all liberals are scum, or anyone who believes we should return to a Constitutional Republic are right wing zealots.
No we can fix it by being honest, humans have flaws, we all have some. We fix it by getting government out of the business of running American Citizens lives. Getting the government out of the business of picking winners and losers in our economy.
We let capitalism happen. And we stop looking for utopia, we will not find it until we meet our maker. We keep high ideals, but save the generalizations that serve no purpose except for those who wish to spend their lives in the Rectory or the Academia hypothesizing.
And we do not elect those who would offer benefits for nothing and chicks for free as long as you can close a blind eye to what the man behind the curtain is doing and are willing to give up our greatest gift.
Liberty.
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yo-daday, this will get you started, its boring, but its very informative http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=_vM2r5CXP3kC you'll get tired of hearing about Charleston. It explains a lot about the origins of the Democratic party and their efforts to reintroduce the caste system of government to this country.

Thomas Sowell fills in a lot of gaps that Wikipedia and other on line reference leaves. Search u-tube for Thomas Sowell, beyond that
you'll have to get books to get facts, there's a lot that's been edited for the internet that they don't want to remind anyone about. I did a search for the Democratic party time line of events the other day, funny thing, they left that whole slavery/civil war off their time line,

While your searching Thomas Sowell, this is a pretty good video to watch as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwqho...eature=related


and yes, I'm wearing my tinfoil hat
Thanks for the links. I like Sowell and Whittle, but had never seen the Whittle video. It's a keeper.
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