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Unread 09-25-2006, 10:01 PM
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Seacrets: I for one am not a Merc basher and I used to have that kind of luck with the 80's and up to mid 90's Mercs and I think the Black Max was pretty much bullet proof and in the same league as the old "90hp tower of power". Unfortunately the hundreds of early Opti max power head failures and Mercs hostile and arrogant attitude towards the owners ran off a lot of business that willl never come back including the commercial guys. If they had admitted the problem and tried to help guys out with legitimate warranty claims they would of been ahead of the game as I think they now have a good product but they are not selling . Sucking mud is a very serious problem for any outboard and I did it big time this morning when I missed the channel in the dark going out early but I was lucky as I managed to shut it off quick. If it had blown it would not of been the fault of the old johnson it would of been mine. Frank
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Unread 09-26-2006, 12:30 AM
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From time to time all manufacturers have had problems, ie. Fichts, Yamaha shift shafts and large HPDI's, VRO pump failures with some manufacturers etc. It's true, customer service is extreemly important and when you need them, they need to step up to the plate. *Let's face it, OMC was in the dumper until Bombardier bailed them out. *Also a Force by Mercury is not the same as a Mercury. *Did anybody ever see a supercharged or a 4 stroke, or EFI Force? *How about an Opti type Force? *This is the same as bracket, I/O or outboard. *It just doesn't matter, we all enjoy the same V20 boat and what does it matter what's hanging off the stern for power. Sorry for being longwinded. * * * *
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Seacrets i dislike an I/O but i'd love to have the money to take a V20 I/O and put a Volvo penta dual prop with a diesel in one. gosh that would be the best boat ever built in my opinion. I agree we all like the same boat Hull

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Saw an ad today for Volkswagen Marine Diesel ranging from 40 - 250 hp. Hook one of them up to a duo prop...

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Unread 09-26-2006, 12:58 AM
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Some of the newer diesels are as light as gas engines, so weight is no longer a problem.
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wouldn't that be great Mercuriser make a GM 6.5 turbo diesel in marine app now which weighs the same as a big block. would that be nice to a merc outdrive with 6.5 turbo 230 hp diesel.
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Here ya go...
http://www.vw-marine.de/cms/index.ph...nginesheet_pi1[engine]=20

225 hp for 335kg, whats that, about 800 pounds? It's a V=6 and would probably fit in a V-20.

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WOW Air we need one of those boats on our site to pass around as a loaner lol
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Unread 09-26-2006, 02:24 AM
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Seacrets: Thats true that Force is not identical to Mercury like Johnson is to Evinrude or Mercury is to Mariner etc. I have nothing against them but Force like Chrysler is very difficult to get parts for and very few people will even work on them. Its also true that all companies made some lemons , elven the almighty Yammies have blown some power heads in the recent 250 HP verson..Frank
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Unread 09-30-2006, 09:15 PM
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The older merc two strokes are simple to work on and really strong motors . . . great power to weight ratio!! The early merc v6 200hp two strokes weigh in under 350lbs . . .

The inline 6 cylinder 150hp motors were 275lbs.




I'm running a 1979 v200 and 1981 v225.

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