Bad for Biden bad for America

[bgreene]

Clearly Joe Biden showing his age and unable to simply answer strongly to the most important lies about Trump.

Trump enjoys lying so it’s easy for him, making his trademark faces and Joe just isn’t up to it.

Like the Chancellor of Germany that was old , weakening and set the stage for Hitler to grab power.

A sad day for America , for our democracy, for truth and for historical facts.

[oteps]

Will be terrible like it wS 4 years ago if Trump wins. Closed borders, young couples will be able to afford houses, cheap gas, energy independence, people will pay for their own college bills, everyone that had to get a 2nd job to make ends meet can quit and spend more time with their family, and no more wars. Remember how bad it was?

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by oteps

Will be terrible like it wS 4 years ago if Trump wins. Closed borders, young couples will be able to afford houses, cheap gas, energy independence, people will pay for their own college bills, everyone that had to get a 2nd job to make ends meet can quit and spend more time with their family, and no more wars. Remember how bad it was?

Trump was lucky that he inherited the strong economy President Obama rebuilt after the Bush fiascos . Covid then hit America and began the related economic challenges.
A President is very much a victim to conditions, positive or negative as Bush Sr found out when he was forced to raise taxes.

What we do know about Trump is that he actually enjoys lying, is absolutely self serving, putting his own interests above all else, including our nation .

[steplift20]

Right Trump was lucky , and Biden destroyed every good 5hing that was put in place by president Donald JTrump.
They say Trump lied? About what? Everything he said was true but the left hates that he destroyed Biden ,and all trump did was say the facts. Biden ,the old gray mare. No good.
Trump. Very good.

[oteps]

Joe lies everything he speaks. Very fine people was a lie, listen to what he said and not what the fake news says. Losers? A guy said he said that? How is that believable? But they keep repeating it and people are dumb enough to believe.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by oteps

Joe lies everything he speaks. Very fine people was a lie, listen to what he said and not what the fake news says. Losers? A guy said he said that? How is that believable? But they keep repeating it and people are dumb enough to believe.

“ stand down and stand by “ Trump said to hate group.
Trump encouraged insurrection attempt against our government and watched as his mob threaten to hang the Vice President !

So many loyalists to trump wind up indicted, in jail or ruined .
Most loyal of all VP Mike Pence gave all to Trump only to be thrown under bus becuase he wouldn’t break our law.

Trump is a con man lying traitor - and no excuses are valid

[steplift20]

First thing Nancy ( insider trading) pelosi said it was my fault and her stupid daughter video tape her mother. What an idiot, and I was thinking. If Biden got 74 or even75 million votes and beat Trump by 2 million I would believe that. But 83 million votes. No chance. No way. It was rigged
Trump has to win.
Go big. To rig.
An$ the debate was great.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by steplift20

First thing Nancy ( insider trading) pelosi said it was my fault and her stupid daughter video tape her mother. What an idiot, and I was thinking. If Biden got 74 or even75 million votes and beat Trump by 2 million I would believe that. But 83 million votes. No chance. No way. It was rigged
Trump has to win.
Go big. To rig.
An$ the debate was great.

Oh you know better and more than all the systems and confirmations hu step.
You’re just a trumper who gives a pass to the criminal traitor

[Pipe_Dream]

Think about this. Trump was convicted of felonies. He's being prosecuted for other felonies. But his standing in the polls, even among independents, hasn't materially changed. Why?

Someone here would have us believe that rabid, militant Trumpers are the reason, but that doesn't account for the others, the ones who supported DeSantis or Haley or Ramaswamy.

If twenty years ago you had been asked, "What would be the consequence for a presidential candidate if he was convicted of felonies, and was being tried for other felonies, all in the middle of an election campaign?," I expect your answer would likely have been "Disastrous." Either people have lost a great deal of trust in the justice system generally. Or they have concluded that in these situations the criminal justice system is being used as a political weapon rather than a genuine tool to protect the public from criminals. Either answer is bad.

("borrowed" extensively from Eugene Volokh)

[bgreene]

Once reaching the tipping point of power - as Trump has done by appointing Supreme Court Judged that side with him, all others tend to fall in line.

Thats how authoritarians tend to take over, step by step until they achieve absolute power.
Then, they “ own “ the nation, and re write the rules.

President for life, complete immunity from laws, followers put in all controlling positions .

Americans don’t want this, we never have, but we’re headed there fast.