Biden and covid

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by steplift20

Destroyer,trying to get thru to greenie is like trying to get a straight answer from the fake president Biden
It ain't gonna happen
Did you see Trumps rally in Arizona ? It was great, we need him back pronto.

Oh I hear you guys loud and clear - you prefer the lying cheating con man traitor trump .
Trump - who gleefully watched the violent insurrection attack on our democracy for two hours while his kids begged him to speak up to end the assault. Traitor .

[scook]

I think Destroyer was citing the very liberal Washington Post, not Trump, to verify the fact that the boarder crisis is as he represented. Your link stated that he’s sending more illegals back than the Trump administration did - well there are a LOT more to send now, due to Biden’s foolish campaign rhetoric and clearly perceived weakness on the issue.

It’s also interesting that another of your links, rating Biden’s performance, gave him high marks specifically where he followed Trump policies and low marks where he didn’t. Regardless of anyone’s view of him personally, he is the only president in my lifetime with a real depth of executive experience, business & economic understanding, coupled with the ego strength to execute what he understood to be correct policy. The results were, among other things an excellent economy, very significantly benefiting minorities and a very rapid response to the COVID pandemic.

Again, after watching the relative success of the wildly dishonest, incessant attacks on him, from even before he took office, it takes a giant and irrational leap to even entertain the notion that he could ever be a threat to out democracy. The real threat is from the left, through trying to establish election laws that assure easy fraud and even trying to include illegal aliens in the voter rolls. After watching the lying, cheating senate and house democrats, is it any wonder why republicans don’t trust the election results - there has been an all out attack to destroy and get rid of Trump since he announced he was running.

[steplift20]

Scoop perfectly said, and why is no one demanding polosi her disregard for security when president Trump told her that there is going to be a huge crowd and get the national guard to secure the capital, maybe she didn't have time cause she was getting some important information on in sider trading and she had to get the news to her husband. Why is insider trading not being investigated , I'm sure Marta steward would like to know me the American people too, but not bgreene.

[bgreene]

“ the real threat is from the left scook says “

This within a year of the Trump encouraged violent attack on our democracy, and his voting result lies .
This after an American President allowed this violent rampage to go on for hours while his own family could not get him to speak up.

The fact is Trump never ordered extra security - he’s only on record of having discussed it to protect his followers. As it turned out so called LEFTISTS did not participate as RIGHT EXTREMISTS followed Trump and his lawyers encouragement to fight like hell and for combat.

You people who grasp at anything to try and undermine these FACTS of what happened are part of the big LIE.

[scook]

Nope - no lie. The Capitol Police had intel and ignored it, the Fed’s monitored right wing social media and probably deeper and initiated nothing, Pelosi and probably Schumer had offers and declined them. I’m inclined to suspect that they wanted a disturbance, though not that extreme, for political reasons. They’ve abundantly proven how dishonest they’ll be to try to promote a false narrative for their political benefit.

Construing “fight like hell” to mean promoting the riot part of the large demonstration is too absurd to warrant comment. And there’s no evidence that I’ve seen that the president encouraged the violence. It seems to me that he could have called for it to end, which he did, sooner, but that’s a long way from fomenting or encouraging it.

Yes, a huge threat is coming from the left: permissioning rampant lawlessness, promoting fraud enabling voting laws, teaching false, destructive racial narrative, the list goes on.

Believing that the election was stolen, which seems to be Trump’s honest opinion, and ASKING the courts to allow serious auditing is not a big lie. The dishonest media are gleeful calling it that, but them lying, which they’ve been shown repeatedly to do, doesn’t make it fact.

It’s really surprising that you don’t seem to see any of that.

[bgreene]

Trumps lawyers went to court - with no evidence of voting fraud.
Trumps auditors checked the votes - and reconfirmed Trump lost
Trumps own officials confirmed the voting was accurate - Trump lost
Our Dept of Homeland Security confirmed the vote was correct .

Trump doesn’t have an “ opinion” that he won - he’s a lying cheating con traitor willing to destroy our democracy rather than accept the truth for the good of our nation.

Our past Presidents did the right thing for our nation — with much closer election losses such as
Gore and Hillary, but they accepted the loss for our national integrity .

[Pipe_Dream]

Originally Posted by scook

It’s really surprising that you don’t seem to see any of that.

Wait, you do remember who you're talking to, don't you?


Seriously, kudos to you for your posts.

[Pipe_Dream]

Originally Posted by bgreene

This after an American President allowed this violent rampage to go on for hours

You forgot "gleefully."

Bad day?

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream

Wait, you do remember who you're talking to, don't you?


Seriously, kudos to you for your posts.

Oh yeh scooks post claiming “ no evidence trump encouraged the violence “….
LOTS of evidence :
1. He told followers to fight like hell.
2. Had his lawyer tell them to seek combat
3. Wouldn’t speak up to stop the violence for hours
4. Wouldn’t even listen to his kids pleas to speak up
5. Trumps often encouraged violence said “ throw demonstrator out and he’d pay their legal bills”

You guys LOVE trumps talk …..as long as your own family, your children, etc don’t get hurt as a result of trumps words , then all of a sudden it’s a different story.
That’s how it always is .

[bgreene]

Lots of men feel strong to be part of the angry mob ……just like kids supporting a bully .

Same as it’s always been, except for me and others