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Well I disagree with everything you wrote here including the percentage of the infrastructure bill. Even broadband extension for more complete coverage is infrastructure .


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Really? Says who? Who says it's infrastructure except the Democrats that put it into the bill to pay off some of their donors with pork bills. Can I drive on it? Can I use it to cross over a river? Can I ride on it? Who exactly suddenly said that internet was infrastructure? Do the people that will it benefit from it have TV? Do they have a phone? Do they have radio? Why do they suddenly need internet that we have to pay for and that the profits will benefit the Cable companies that will be selling them the service?

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Really? Says who? Who says it's infrastructure except the Democrats that put it into the bill to pay off some of their donors with pork bills. Can I drive on it? Can I use it to cross over a river? Can I ride on it? Who exactly suddenly said that internet was infrastructure? Do the people that will it benefit from it have TV? Do they have a phone? Do they have radio? Why do they suddenly need internet that we have to pay for and that the profits will benefit the Cable companies that will be selling them the service?

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You disagree that your response was disrespectful and condescending? You should probably read it again.

The infrastructure percentage I used is your number that you used to “prove Destroyer wrong”, which it seems is more important to you than actually discussing issues sensibly. And of course you didn’t prove him wrong.

Everything we have here is infrastructure of a sort. The fact that I can buy just about anything I need for a project shows that we have an amazing infrastructure. The infrastructure that the government is responsible for is a very small segment of all infrastructure. Where that line is drawn is a source of very significant disagreement between the left and the right - disagreeing with you about where the line is is not sneaky, tricky or ignorant. In the case of the infrastructure bill, it’s an issue if fiscal responsibility.

The most egregious claim in the link you posted is that the bill is partly “paid for” by redirecting Covid relief and other funds - none of those things are paid for whether they’re redirected or not.
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You disagree that your response was disrespectful and condescending? You should probably read it again.

The infrastructure percentage I used is your number that you used to “prove Destroyer wrong”, which it seems is more important to you than actually discussing issues sensibly. And of course you didn’t prove him wrong.

Everything we have here is infrastructure of a sort. The fact that I can buy just about anything I need for a project shows that we have an amazing infrastructure. The infrastructure that the government is responsible for is a very small segment of all infrastructure. Where that line is drawn is a source of very significant disagreement between the left and the right - disagreeing with you about where the line is is not sneaky, tricky or ignorant. In the case of the infrastructure bill, it’s an issue if fiscal responsibility.

The most egregious claim in the link you posted is that the bill is partly “paid for” by redirecting Covid relief and other funds - none of those things are paid for whether they’re redirected or not.
I agree that most all in the approved Bill is indeed infrastructure of a sort - yes and much needed to keep our country great.
I also apologize if I offended you with any of my comments
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The most egregious claim in the link you posted is that the bill is partly “paid for” by redirecting Covid relief and other funds - none of those things are paid for whether they’re redirected or not.
Totally agree Scook.
Oh, and as a FYI to anyone that doesn't know, Biden has signed a bill to release/sell 50 million barrels of oil from our strategic reserve to help reduce the cost of gas and oil. But what most people don't know is that 18 million barrels of that oil was already earmarked to be sold to help pay for the "Infrastructure" pork bill they just enacted. So really it's only 32 million barrels additional. (Oh, and that amount of oil is only a 2 1/2 days supply for the US) It's all smoke and mirrors that will do nothing to lower the cost of oil or gas, but it will help them pay for some more of the pork in the Infrastructure bill.

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President Joe Bidens infrastructure commitment - helping to keep America great .

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President Joe Bidens infrastructure commitment - helping to keep America great .

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Ummm.... ya.

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