Anchor bow roller install

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by pjbrownva

@ahokrags, I really like the anchor roller. I think it was well worth the money.

I've set up the roller and bow pulpit made out of Ipe wood, replaced the single bow light with a separate port and starboard ones, and removed the cleat for the anchor. I haven't put a new cleat on yet, or actually used the anchor yet, but I think it'll be a big improvement!

More to come once I'm done!

Great. I could not get mine in through the winter. Will look into it this summer

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

I used a pivoting anchor roller. Worked great. Kept anchor ready at all times. Could drop & retrieve standing in the cuddy
Highly recommend.
I did eventually install a deck pipe straight into the "anchor locker"

Could you post a image of where you installed the deck pipe. I bought this one

https://sea-dog.com/groups/2528-hinged-chain-deck-pipe
says line size 1" am hoping 5/16" chain will work with it.


Cheers
Ashok

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by ashokrags

Could you post a image of where you installed the deck pipe. I bought this one

https://sea-dog.com/groups/2528-hinged-chain-deck-pipe
says line size 1" am hoping 5/16" chain will work with it.


Cheers
Ashok

WHY are you using chain, or is that just for the end of the rode? And for heavens ske, why 5/16"? This is a 20 foot boat that at best could be called either light weight or medium weight. It's not a heavy weight boat, and even if it were, for it's length you would only be using 3/16 PC (Proof Coil) chain with 3/8 nylon rope.

Personally, I like and use 1/2" nylon rope with 1/4 PC chain at the end, mostly because I like how it feels in my hands, NOT because of additional strength. Just pay attention to your line length (8:1 ratio) and you'll have no problems. Here's a good link for info on chain, line and all the hardware you will need. https://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvis...ur-Anchor-Rode

[SkunkBoat]

5/8" line is way too much. Bigger is not better.

Too expensive when someday you have to cut off (and your expensive anchor)...
You need too much room to store it!
300ft only gets you 60ft deep on a nice day. You'll be lucky to get 300ft of 5/8" in there.

3/8 ...7/16" is nice for pulling.

1/4" chain. 15' of 5/16 is too heavy.

That deck pipe will not fit chain. I have one in the 'never gonna use this" pile in my garage. You need the bigger round one or the oval one. I drilled a hole in deck and inside cabin to get to anchor locker. used a piece of cheap landscape drainage pipe siliconed between holes.

I saw a picture on the Mantis site of a Mantis in the same pivoting roller as mine.

here is a pic of the deck pipe

[scook]

It may not be relevant to how you use your anchors, but here’s my program:
When the rats got into my 3/8” line, I had already purchased 1/2” for easier grip (not for strength - the 3/8” held in very strong current, even bent my anchor when it got caught under a big rock). I now have a bunch of really nice rope to tie stuff on my truck.
I have three lengths of anchor line for different depths. This is so I don’t have a huge gob of line to toss overboard with a float when we drop off the anchor to play a fish and can come back to the same spot.
I connect the line to the chain with an openable link, so I can switch lines easily and it lets me leave the chain on deck, coiled around the bow cleat and drop the line into a basket in the cuddy.
This works for me, probably because I’ve rigged the sliding hatch to come completely off and stow in a rack under the deck - those hatches are a big pain for doing anchor work.

[Pipe_Dream]

Originally Posted by scook

It may not be relevant to how you use your anchors, but here’s my program:
When the rats got into my 3/8” line, I had already purchased 1/2” for easier grip (not for strength - the 3/8” held in very strong current, even bent my anchor when it got caught under a big rock). I now have a bunch of really nice rope to tie stuff on my truck.
I have three lengths of anchor line for different depths. This is so I don’t have a huge gob of line to toss overboard with a float when we drop off the anchor to play a fish and can come back to the same spot.
I connect the line to the chain with an openable link, so I can switch lines easily and it lets me leave the chain on deck, coiled around the bow cleat and drop the line into a basket in the cuddy.
This works for me, probably because I’ve rigged the sliding hatch to come completely off and stow in a rack under the deck - those hatches are a big pain for doing anchor work.

Sounds like you definitely have it sorted out!

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

5/8" line is way too much. Bigger is not better.

Too expensive when someday you have to cut off (and your expensive anchor)...
You need too much room to store it!
300ft only gets you 60ft deep on a nice day. You'll be lucky to get 300ft of 5/8" in there.

3/8 ...7/16" is nice for pulling.

1/4" chain. 15' of 5/16 is too heavy.

That deck pipe will not fit chain. I have one in the 'never gonna use this" pile in my garage. You need the bigger round one or the oval one. I drilled a hole in deck and inside cabin to get to anchor locker. used a piece of cheap landscape drainage pipe siliconed between holes.

I saw a picture on the Mantis site of a Mantis in the same pivoting roller as mine.

here is a pic of the deck pipe

I understand, I was just trying to be conservative. Like i said before I might go with 1/2" rope and 1/4" chain. I had to get a better setting anchor because I am not good at it and the danforth i had has pulled loose a couple of times especially when it was not a sandy bottom. With the kids on board I want to make sure its as safe as possible. I also don't usually anchor in 20-30 ft depth, rarely in 60 ft water except at the lake and that in fairly calm conditions.

So with the deck pipe did you have to run a pipe inside too? It's manual pulling right now from my end, so I was just hoping to just install that on top pull up the rope and then feed it into the anchor locker from the cuddy once done. I am actually thinking i might put the deck pipe on the sliding top.. will post some pics once I have that figured out
Would you mind posting a pic of the installation from the inside when you have a chance, there really isn't much info out there on how to install in the WWW.

Much obliged,
Cheers
Ashok

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

WHY are you using chain, or is that just for the end of the rode? And for heavens ske, why 5/16"? This is a 20 foot boat that at best could be called either light weight or medium weight. It's not a heavy weight boat, and even if it were, for it's length you would only be using 3/16 PC (Proof Coil) chain with 3/8 nylon rope.

Personally, I like and use 1/2" nylon rope with 1/4 PC chain at the end, mostly because I like how it feels in my hands, NOT because of additional strength. Just pay attention to your line length (8:1 ratio) and you'll have no problems. Here's a good link for info on chain, line and all the hardware you will need. https://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvis...ur-Anchor-Rode

I am not using chain, Just for the end of the rode. The deck pipe is for chain, but i figured i would get a bigger opening. I was wavering between 5/8 and 1/2 for the rope and decided might go bigger based on what i was reading on the interweb . So the chain is half the dia of the rope and that's where i came up with the 5/16. I guess it's not too late, I can still return the rope via amazon. I guess I could step down to 1/2" rope and 1/4" inch chain like your setup. I guess i wanted to be safer than sorry

[pjbrownva]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

I used a pivoting anchor roller. Worked great. Kept anchor ready at all times. Could drop & retrieve standing in the cuddy
Highly recommend.
I did eventually install a deck pipe straight into the "anchor locker"

@skunkboat , would you mind sharing where you put the the deck pipe?

I boat alone a lot, or with in experienced help, so I like the idea of being able to deploy and retrieve from the cockpit, or at least standing in the cuddy... it's easier... I'm still at (or closer to) the helm, and it's safer, especially if the seas aren't dead-calm.

That's lead me to think that I want a deck pipe on the fore deck on the port side of the opening for the cabin, near the windshield, with a pop-up cleat in front of it... that way I can open the windshield, and then release or retrieve the anchor easily.

I'd put a laundry basket under the deck pipe to gather and hold the anchor rope and chain. I've also purchased a pin and device that I'll call a chain lock (I don't know the correct name) that you can use to secure the chain as well.


Just looking to learn from the experience of others before I start making holes all over the fore deck!

I'm thinking that a deck pipe close to the anchor roller in the bow wouldn't be very good, because someone would have to go up onto the foredeck to deploy or retrieve the anchor.
Even when I'm not alone, at times I'm anchoring where it can be dangerous, like near rocks on the edges of channels by Falmouth or the Buzzards Bay in Mass.... these areas have very strong currents, so
I feel safer keeping everyone safely inside the cockpit. (in fact... No ONE gets to pee over the side of my boat when we're at sea. Pee into a "lil-john' bottle, pee on the splash deck, or even go to the stern and pee on the deck (I've got a raw water washdown hose). I don't want ANYONE leaning far enough over the side for them to clear the gunnel.... the currents are too strong, and an unforeseen wake from a big commercial boat such as a ferry, could rock the boat and put someone in the drink! It's just not worth the risk, and a far too dangerous to try to rescue someone out of those conditions (although, obviously I *would*, and also call for help if I have *any* difficulty. -- sorry for the off-topic rant! Just sharing. Safety is #1 priority. It's easy to wash-away piss, but it sucks if a person gets washed away!)


Thanks!

[ashokrags]

Originally Posted by scook

I thought mine looked kind of small and, yes I think the loop should probably go over the top - doesn’t make sense the way it is. I never used it.

The responses are a little confusing - is mine too small to be of interest? Just need to know if it should be stashed back with boat parts.

Thanks

Hello Scott,
Sorry for the slow response. I was out last week .. went from sea level elevation to 14000 ft and the ER afterwards :) ... long story.....
Will start making some posts today after I check the dimensions.
Cheers
Ashok