1977 v20 and ez load trailer repair

[phatdaddy]

All of this for a painted trailer. No wonder your scabbing wood in it. I wouldn't spend any money on it either.

Be on the look out for an al/galvanized one if your going to use it more than twice a year

[Lance Pearson]

It is galvanized. All this isn't much...and if it extends the life another five or ten years then why spend anything on something else?

[Lance Pearson]

1. Destroyer, your sarcasm does not suit you well. Many of us also are competent to make mechanical judgements.
2. The trailer is galvanized steel with some type of coating on the winch platform bow steel for some reason
3. The wood is pressure treated, I just said it was salt as that was another way of saying it.
4. Your comments were listened to and considered. Please don't lecture me as tho I have no common sense. I have just as much as you do and as many or more degrees, experiences and responsibilities in my background. You probably don't want to go there.
5. With respect to pictures I posted a link to my site with dozens and dozens of full sized, non compressed photos of the boat. This site's photo policies makes them so small and so compressed they are useless. If you are sunk into your big arm chair watching football look for that post on this thread and you can see better photos. The option is yours. Takes away from the charm of your native sarcasm when you keep whining the same song when it's been responded to.
6. Not everyone is going to agree with everything you say but I did consider it. Not a lot of engineers have the balance to run the entire company. I always thought it had something to do with tunnel vision personally.
7. Have a good holiday and I appreciate your initial advice which I did consider and modify my plans accordingly within the frame of my own judgment as an input. Thanks for that input.
8. I removed most of the posting considering the responses and the individuals responding. Seems more sensible to deal with rational people.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by Lance Pearson

1. Destroyer, your sarcasm does not suit you well. Many of us also are competent to make mechanical judgements.
2. The trailer is galvanized steel with some type of coating on it for some reason
3. The wood is pressure treated, I just said it was salt as that was another way of saying it.
4. Your comments were listened to and considered. Please don't lecture me as tho I have no common sense. I have just as much as you do and as many or more degrees, experiences and responsibilities in my background. You probably don't want to go there.
5. With respect to pictures I posted a link to my site with dozens and dozens of full sized, non compressed photos of the boat. This site's photo policies makes them so small and so compressed they are useless. If you are sunk into your big arm chair watching football look for that post on this thread and you can see better photos. The option is yours. Takes away from the charm of your native sarcasm when you keep whining the same song when it's been responded to.
6. Not everyone is going to agree with everything you say but I did consider it. Not a lot of engineers have the balance to run the entire company. I always thought it had something to do with tunnel vision personally.
7. Have a good holiday and I appreciate your initial advice which I did consider and modify my plans accordingly within the frame of my own judgment as an input. Thanks for that input.
8. I removed most of the posting considering the responses and the individuals responding. Seems more sensible to deal with rational people.

Whoa.... Hold on there Lance. There was no sarcasm either implied or intended. If you are too thin skinned to understand the joke I was making about my experience I feel sorry for you but don't try to hang a label on me unless you're certain it's accurate. My comment was a measured response to your previous comment where you were trying to lecture me about steel tubing where you said quote: "The structure of the rectangular steel tube depends on all four sides being intact. Replacing a short section of the bottom with solid wood with drain grooves cut in it as an inside "cripple" will effectively accomplish that structurally". unquote. Actually, it won't. I tried to show you that by telling you that I had professional experience in that area. You are a relative newcomer to this board so before you open your mouth perhaps you should reread what I posted. Anyone that knows me here knows that if and when I'm in a argument I don't hold back and I don't pull punches. I do, however, like to joke and make fun at myself, which is what I was doing with my previous post. I mean, after all, why should you listen to me? I'm a nobody with no experience, right? That being said, if I was being sarcastic with you why would I, after viewing your pictures, pay you a complement, saying you had a good eye? I have 3 sisters, all involved in the photography industry in one way or another. One is a film editor for Disney. One (with her husband) owns 2 portrait studios in Paris, France and the 3rd is, like yourself, semi-pro and freelance. Oh, and one of my brothers is also actively involved in photography, but more as a passionate hobby. My dad had his own darkroom, and we (his kids) were brought up in an atmosphere conductive to all things related to picture taking and the appreciation of same. A subscription to Photography Magazine was a yearly Christmas gift to my dad.
Now, aside from your hurt feelings, exactly where in my post did I say anything that was offensive to you? I pointed out the problems with salt wood. (Look up Browning shotguns to see how much damage it can do) I said that wood absorbed water and as such would probably accelerate the rusting in your trailer. I advised that I would use welded plates instead and offered the advice that if you did go the welding route to be sure to clean and seal the metal at the weld sites afterwards. I said that the trailer looked like it was a painted type (if you say it's galvanized fine), but from your pictures it looks painted (and you yourself note that it is coated with something, so that's an honest mistake). I noted that, like you, I used to take I-95 to Fla twice a year and it was a pleasant drive. (My uncle died a few years back so I don't make that trip anymore). And I questioned how many boats there were, because, from the pictures on your picture site I can plainly see 4 different cockpit configurations.
Personally, I don't give a damn if you do or do not want to listen to my advice. It is, as I pointed out, exactly that....advice. It is not a requirement that you or anyone else follow. I offer it freely, on a number of subjects of which I'm familiar, whenever I feel it appropriate. I also seek advice from the other members of this site, on a variety of subjects, on things I am not familiar with or am having problems with. That's what this site is all about.. the free exchange of information among the various members.

So, all that being said, lets answer your post in order shall we?
1) There was no sarcasm intended. Sorry if you took it that way.
2) If the trailer is coated how do you know it's galvanized underneath? Most paints will not stick to galvanized metal, and, while it is possible to paint galvanized using special techniques, it's difficult and not normally done.
3) I cannot read minds. You said the wood was salt wood, which is a process for drying wood without a kiln. It is not pressure treating which is a totally different process with a different result. I can only go by what you said.
4) I'm honored that you considered my comments. As to what your experiences, degrees, etc. are, while they may be impressive, I could care less. I judge a man on what he says and how he conducts himself. Some of the smartest people I know don't have a high school education.
5) Not sure how to respond to #5. I don't have a big arm chair, I don't, as a rule, watch tv, much less football, the pictures on your site were good and I expressed my admiration of your skill to you with the compliment that you had a good eye for picture taking. There was no sarcasm. So I guess you missed the mark on all of those comments.
6) I don't care if people do or do not agree with what I say. In fact, I like it when they don't agree, as long as they can show me where I was wrong. It's one of the ways that we, as a species, learns. I never said I ran a company. I worked for a power and light company, starting out as an engineer and working my way up to Mgr of Facilities. I had 40 major buildings under my direction. But at no time did I ever say I owned the company. Don't know where you got that from.
7) Same to you. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
8) Not sure what you mean by removing the posting(s). Do you mean you deleted someone else's posts, and are you implying that you don't think the posters were or are rational people? I can assure you that ALL of the people on this site are hard working, industrious, rational people. Most of them far smarter than I am.

[Destroyer]

Note to all. Mr. Pearson decided to send me a PM after he made his last post.
I decided to copy/paste it here, along with my response to him. The following is a complete and unedited copy of the text:

Originally Posted by Lance Pearson

Your sarcasm and overbearing dictatorial manner have convinced me there is little point to staying on this site and have dropped it. If I have to depend on info from guys named Destroyer this is not the site for me.

Believe me, you won't miss me and I sure won't miss you. removing assholes from my life pretty much covers it.

Lance

I was in the Navy. I served on a Destroyer. (USS Basilone DD-824) When personal computers became available in the 80's I tried to take the handle of Destroyerman, to reflect my service. Unfortunately most game programs back then only allowed a name of 10 characters or less, so I was forced to shorten my handle to Destroyer. People came to know me by that name so when it became possible to use longer strings of characters I opted to stay with Destroyer. My name has nothing to do with anything other than my pride in serving my Country.

I'm sorry you feel that way Lance, and I wish you well with your future endeavors. It would be very easy for me to make some kind of nasty remark aimed towards you, but I bear you no ill will or malice. God Speed.

[phatdaddy]

wow, lot happened on this thread overnight.

no sarcasm intended on my part. no arm chair quarterbacking either, i trailer and launch my boat around 60-75 times a year (5 times last week alone).

Enjoy you V20

[bradford]

Lol.

Before things turned to **** I was gonna suggest he buy one of Destroyers trailers. They sound pretty nice for the money.

I envy you Phat. Been trying to streamline things in life so I can do the same. Doing pretty good at it so far.

[phatdaddy]

I'm with you B, i'm trying to go "Travis McGee" as fast as i can.

[bradford]

Originally Posted by phatdaddy

I'm with you B, i'm trying to go "Travis McGee" as fast as i can.

Finished Bright Orange for the Shroud a couple weeks ago, still reading them in order from the beginning. Took a break and reread Under Cover of Daylight to get my Thorn fix while in the keys, and currently reading The Serpents Coil, it's a true account about mid ocean ship salvage. Been shopping trawlers, not ready to pull the trigger, but got what I want narrowed down and the funds being put up for the right one. Changed the name on the IRA from "retirement" to "Cruising Stash".

So yeah, I'm with ya man.