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Unread 03-02-2015, 09:01 PM
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I fish wire as well. My time fishing has been pretty limited since I lost my boat in Sandy, but this year I should be back on track. I'll be back in AHMM for the summer and should be ready for my first spring run since 2011. Looking foreword to some more pics of your new ride.
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Unread 03-02-2015, 09:14 PM
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Striper80 i know where your coming from I myself got flooded and finally getting back on track with everything. Hope all is well with you and your family hope to see u out there bending rods
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Destroyer I get where your coming from. Down riggers are great for placing the bait where u need to. Tony maja makes a great rig to run spoons with down riggers. Most wire line like Monel has a permanent sink rate so I know the depth with ease
True, but only to a point. Depth is dependent on your forward speed as well as the resistance of your lure to the water. So if you're trolling umbrellas your sink rate is going to be much different than if you're trolling a single spoon or a lure.

(Yes, the same can be said of downriggers, but to a much lesser extent.)

If you troll @ say 1 mph and you have out 150' of wire, you will be @ X depth. If you increase your speed to 2 mph your lure will be @ Y depth. You have no idea what that depth really is because things like current and wind can easily change your speed without you even noticing. Since you cannot see your lures or your umbrellas on your fishfinder (because they are so far back) you're just guessing at how deep they actually are. With downriggers, they are not as subject to the ballooning of the line like wire is. I can see the downrigger weights on my fishfinder so it's easy to accurately adjust my depth if I see a school of fish at 10 feet or 50 feet.
And, as a further inducement to using downriggers, unlike wire, I never have to worry about putting a kink in my wire that all but eliminates it's strength.

Please don't misunderstand me. To each his own. If you like wire then by all means use it. All I'm saying is that, for me, downriggers are the way to go.
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All I know is we catch a crap load of fish this way. Never had a problem with finding depth....
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True, but only to a point. Depth is dependent on your forward speed as well as the resistance of your lure to the water. So if you're trolling umbrellas your sink rate is going to be much different than if you're trolling a single spoon or a lure.

(Yes, the same can be said of downriggers, but to a much lesser extent.)

If you troll @ say 1 mph and you have out 150' of wire, you will be @ X depth. If you increase your speed to 2 mph your lure will be @ Y depth. You have no idea what that depth really is because things like current and wind can easily change your speed without you even noticing. Since you cannot see your lures or your umbrellas on your fishfinder (because they are so far back) you're just guessing at how deep they actually are. With downriggers, they are not as subject to the ballooning of the line like wire is. I can see the downrigger weights on my fishfinder so it's easy to accurately adjust my depth if I see a school of fish at 10 feet or 50 feet.
And, as a further inducement to using downriggers, unlike wire, I never have to worry about putting a kink in my wire that all but eliminates it's strength.

Please don't misunderstand me. To each his own. If you like wire then by all means use it. All I'm saying is that, for me, downriggers are the way to go.
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I mostly troll the wire at 2.8 mph because that's the speed I catch most fish.

300' of wire out runs 50-60 feet down.
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Please don't misunderstand me. To each his own. If you like wire then by all means use it. All I'm saying is that, for me, downriggers are the way to go.
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I use to do wire, yes on a day other wise fish less wire will work! but what a pia!! I said use to, but what ever i know a bunch of guys here that still use it
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if any of y'all need any down riggers, I've got four of them for sale
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