1980 Welcraft Retail Price List - Page 6

steplift20 · #51 05-14-2005, 10:47 AM

What gets me is that the v20 is a perfect boat, Think about it. Why would anyone discountinue it was a bad call. its like when your working for a company and everything is going good then they hire some college guy to change things.he starts to change things , it doesnt matter if it turns out good or bad he cant go in there and say hey guys you dont need me everything is good so what he does is take the v20 and says we are no longer going to sell that boat because the people dont want that design anny more well i got one thing to say to that guy,,,,,,**** YOU ******* YOU DONT KNOW ****,,,,and that my friends says it all.Thank you steplift20, and as you can see by my name ....I LOVE MY 1978 STEPLIFT CUDDY WITH THE 150 MERCURY OUTBOARD. thanks guys, hey who knows maybe some day we will all meet at atlantic hightlands nj for a steplift shootout fluke or blues tornament, sounds good to me. latter

reelapeelin · #52 05-14-2005, 11:00 AM

Vic and Franco...thanks, Guys...I'll take a look at MS Publisher and Franco, let me know what you turn up...

labii said something above re Wellcraft's molds...Hmmm...wonder what they're reaction might be if we approached them about usin' them for "LIMITED" production?...

Haven't spent time around V20 w/ scuppers...am I gettin' the idea Wellcraft didn't set the floor high enough above water-line for scuppers to drain fully? Do they generally work or we gotta modify?...

macojoe · #53 05-14-2005, 11:27 AM

Relax steplift20!! You are going to blow a gasket!!

Like with everything, Time goes on and with time taste change!

Theres no doubt that these are great boats!! And I am sure that Wellcraft knows it also!

But for Wellcraft to stay in the game they have to give the boaters what they want, and at a good price.

Today boats are lighter, faster, sleeker, and to do this they have to change alot of things!!
People want bait tanks, seats, molded this and that and to do it for a good price they have to cut something else??
These new boats are going with composit fillers that are much easier and cheaper then to have some guy hand laying fiberglass.
I don't blame Wellcraft for it one bit!! Its the boaters them self. They asked for and they got the new boats of today, for better or worse.

We are just a hand full of guys that love what we have and would like to keep them around for a long time to come, But for a big company they can't cater to a small group!
They will go out of bissnes real fast! My boat is 30 years old, and if they sold new boats, to let say the 300+ members here and they lasted 30 years what would they do?

I don't no if this idea of building are own boats will ever fly??
But if it does it will be a great way to sell a new boat to people that want to have a soild fiberglass hull!

But it all comes down to cost!! If you can't do it cheap anough it won't sell!
And getting started with a $3000 mold is just the tip of the iceburg!! Theres a long long long way to go before this ever ever gets going!

I hope for all those who want to do it, they some how can! But the odds are aganist it!

reelapeelin · #54 05-15-2005, 09:09 AM

MJ, you crusty old so&so&so&so...when you're right, you're right...am I right?...chances of one of these hulls ever seein' light of day are 50/50 at best, but it's created a lotta buzz and gotten some GREAT ideas flowin'...personally, I believe it'll happen...but not in an instant...if several of us were in the same town w/NOTHING else to do, then instant...how did the man eat the elephant?...ONE bite at the time!... ;) ;D...

Vic · #55 05-17-2005, 12:32 AM

Hey guys, Let me put my two cents in. I'm a custom woodworker by trade. Been in it for 11 years as an independant. It seems everytime someone tells me that something will be too expensive and nobody will pay the price, its always the opposite. Think about it this way. If people want average stuff there is plenty out there. If there is a small market for upscale boats, the only ones that will have them are the porche, and mercedes guys. They buy them for their handling and the prestige of having one. Its like buying a Grady, or a Harley. If we do it right to the last screw, and sell one to some wealthy guy. He'll tell some people and it'll definately be seen, because nobody buys nice stuff without showing it to someone, and a fad will be started. The phone will ring off the hook. Nobody will have time to go fishing because of working on building boats and then take the company public and retire in the keys with Hatteras's. 8) Well maybe V35's

WiseGuy · #56 05-17-2005, 02:06 AM

Don't know about those porsche guys, but I want one. :) :D ;D
Brand spankin new with so much gloss that I need sunglasses and the cockpit seating and tackle lockers that I design :) :D ;D

reelapeelin · #57 05-17-2005, 09:03 AM

VIC...YOU A GENUS!!!...you hit the nail right smack on the head...that's the "nitch" market I refered to earlier that'll buy this boat...IF we do it right with QUALITY in mind...

From a design standpoint, I keep thinkin' 60% of the width of the full transom can be plumbed baitwell(25-30 gals) w/ remaining 40% insulated cooler...insulated fish-box in floor ahead of transom w/ 60 gal belly tank forward of that...port-side dash has chart-holder and MJ/CB-Style tackle drawers, starboard dash is large, open and ample FLAT surface for mounting electronics...

All this and more based on a 22' version of a late 80s/early 90s cuddy w/ flotation aluminum bracket...MAX HP...250

CC version has tackle drawers in port side of console w/ chart-holder under electronics bow(hinged and drops down for viewing), door on starboard console for access...
For THOUGHT...it seems to me that most CC's consoles are too far aft and kill more space where you need it in back of boat....sooooo, I propose our CC has the console farther forward than is typical to open the space to fight the fish...not TOO FAR, but some...

QUALITY w/out COMPRIMISE...

cruiser37 · #58 05-19-2005, 02:03 AM

Hello Guys,

Let me know if I can help. Hatteras Yachts is located in my home town and Grady White is 45 miles away. I'm sure I can find someone that can spray gelcoat or Awlgrip (use to be Imron) the big boys are using awlgrip over gelcoat at this point. Consider me in on your initial investment up to $2000, as long as the wife doesn't know who cares!

MOD

reelapeelin · #59 05-19-2005, 08:44 AM

Well now, there you go...thanks , Cruiser...I guess that's a next step...PLEDGES...

I recall Franco saying he could cover cost of a mold(hope he wasn't just joshin')...and several guys sayin they were in...

At this point we don't need the $$$, rather get an idea of REALISTICLY how much we can gather...if we have a sum of money to draw from, it will hopefully spark interest from other areas and demonstrate we are serious about this project...

So as not to put undue pressure on anyone, PLEDGES to my PM...not amounts you'd like to contribute, but amounts you really can invest in this project...

Post here that you have made a PLEDGE to my PM...no amount too small and certainly none too BIG... :o...

Let's see what we can do... ;D...

Franco · #60 05-21-2005, 10:55 PM

I'm still in, I have a small retirement account I have to transfer soon, I'm willing to gamble with some of it. I could afford to cough up $3,000 to $5,000 in this venture. But we gotta do some serious planning. We goota come up with a wish list on stuff for the boat, decide on materials ( type of cloth, resin, core material, etc) and then develop a business plan. We can start a small corp and own shares based on each persons investment. lETS DO THIS