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Unread 09-23-2013, 02:25 AM
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check the voltage at the starter positive terminal to the starter housing while trying to crank vs battery voltage while trying to crank to rule out high resistance connections
I ran a line directly from a fully charged battery directly to the starter positive terminal and another one directly to the ground. Same result as when run the normal way. Starter engages, spins up but just can't seem to turn the flywheel. If I pull the manual starter cord to give it some help it will spin the engine rapidly for several revs, but eventually it will lose speed and stop again.
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Unread 09-23-2013, 02:50 AM
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Pics as promised:

ENGINE


Cowl removed, starboard side, showing "lightning" on the block, starter removed


Serial number on plug


Serial number on tilt/swivel


Starter, front side


Starter, back side, showing faded numbers


Top mounting holes (Note worn paint showing something must have been mounted here at one time)


Side mounting holes


Gap when present starter is mounted. Just doesn't look right


Even with the gap, the starter does function correctly, meaning the throw of the starter gear to the ring gear is the correct distance, and the number of teeth (10) and the rotation (CCW) are all correct. No damage to the ring gear is occurring.
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1996 V21 w/1993 200HP Mercury on a Shoreline Trailer
All towed by a 5.7L Hemi Durango.


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Unread 09-23-2013, 11:11 AM
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just so we don't assume anything... when you went through it you DID make sure the brushes moved freely in their slides and that there was no side play in the bearings?

BTW THANKS for the pics... I would LOVE to make my kicker e-start and was wondering what all was different.
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just so we don't assume anything... when you went through it you DID make sure the brushes moved freely in their slides and that there was no side play in the bearings?

BTW THANKS for the pics... I would LOVE to make my kicker e-start and was wondering what all was different.
Happy to help on the pics. Not alot really different. My guess is the pull starter might need to be changed, (there are several of them for sale on eBay) and if your flywheel doesn't have gear teeth you'll need a different flywheel and some kind of starter button/switch installed. if you look at pic two (the one with the cowl off, you see that red button. That's the stop button... next to it on the left is the starter button. You can only access it with the shift lever in neutral, which is why it has that weird cutout in it.

As to the brushes, yes, they are free in their slides and the bearings are good, no obvious wear, and the rotor spins freely in them without any obvious side to side motion.

I bought the starter that Ferm found and posted in this thread, along with the entire lower leg. Mine is starting to show corrosion, and his looks much better (he sent me additional pics). (THANK YOU FERM)!!! So we'll see where this goes in a few days. It's being shipped 3 day fed ex, so I should get it by this weekend and I'll know by then what the score is.
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