What's the V21 rated for - 200 or 225 ? - Page 2

bgreene · #11 08-28-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer

I completely agree with Ferm on this one... When I redid the the deck and the foam on my 21 last year I noticed that there was about a 3/4 inch gap between the transom and the bracket stringers(?). We filled the gap with putty and then glassed between the two to reinforce the bracket. Sorry I don't have any "before" pics, but I'll take a few "after" pics so you can see what I'm trying to say. I cannot understand why Wellcraft didn't glass over that gap and strengthen the bracket in the first place.

Yeh, I can't quite figure what you're describing. The way the V21 transom well curves around I can't visualize how it all comes together because wood doesn't just wrap around a curve that way !! If it's not well constructed, then they would break off which I haven't heard or read about. Obviously you improved on it. Get the name of the top manufacturing manager of Wellcraft back in the mid 90's and I'll call him or her for discussion specific to how and why .............

THEFERMANATOR · #12 08-28-2012, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer

I completely agree with Ferm on this one... When I redid the the deck and the foam on my 21 last year I noticed that there was about a 3/4 inch gap between the transom and the bracket stringers(?). We filled the gap with putty and then glassed between the two to reinforce the bracket. Sorry I don't have any "before" pics, but I'll take a few "after" pics so you can see what I'm trying to say. I cannot understand why Wellcraft didn't glass over that gap and strengthen the bracket in the first place.

The one I seen had these gaps and more. Towards the rear portion of it in the curve was just glass and resin on the one I seen with the top cut off.

bgreene · #13 08-29-2012, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR

The one I seen had these gaps and more. Towards the rear portion of it in the curve was just glass and resin on the one I seen with the top cut off.

I haven't read about V21 transom's having issues - if done poorly, likely would have been over the years with all those boats out there. Interesting.

Destroyer · #14 08-29-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene

I haven't read about V21 transom's having issues - if done poorly, likely would have been over the years with all those boats out there. Interesting.

Well, as Ferm said:

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Plenty strong enough for a 200, but I wouldn't go more.

But I am here to tell you that looking at the well from the inside of the boat, I was shocked to see the gap I described. You can see it also... just open the port side bulkhead hatch on the stern and look inside. You'll clearly see the bracket well and then a 3/4" gap and then the transom stringer. It's that gap we're talking about...

THEFERMANATOR · #15 08-29-2012, 09:31 PM

The gap I was talking about wasn't able to be seen without the cap being off. The V-21 I looked at had been stolen, and the transom was trashed. In the very rear of it where the engine mounting portion of it atatches to the sides was full of gaps and voids filled with just resin and some glass.

Destroyer · #16 08-29-2012, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR

The gap I was talking about wasn't able to be seen without the cap being off. The V-21 I looked at had been stolen, and the transom was trashed. In the very rear of it where the engine mounting portion of it atatches to the sides was full of gaps and voids filled with just resin and some glass.

Ahhh, ok. No, the gap(s) I was talking about are inside the the hull on the stern itself. There is a gap of about 3/4" of an inch between the engine bracket where it comes thru the transom and what I am calling a stringer that is almost against the transom itself. It's only logical to bridge that gap and further strengthen the engine bracket, and yet Wellcraft didn't do it. I'll take a pic of it tomorrow in the light and post it here so you can see what I'm saying. I'm probably not calling it by the right names/terms, but as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words, so I'll let the pic talk tomorrow.

bgreene · #17 08-30-2012, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer

Ahhh, ok. No, the gap(s) I was talking about are inside the the hull on the stern itself. There is a gap of about 3/4" of an inch between the engine bracket where it comes thru the transom and what I am calling a stringer that is almost against the transom itself. It's only logical to bridge that gap and further strengthen the engine bracket, and yet Wellcraft didn't do it. I'll take a pic of it tomorrow in the light and post it here so you can see what I'm saying. I'm probably not calling it by the right names/terms, but as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words, so I'll let the pic talk tomorrow.

Yes - let's see !!

Redneck · #18 08-30-2012, 08:33 AM

I don't think I like were this is heading. With a boat that was so Well Crafted why did they miss such an important detail on strength

bgreene · #19 08-30-2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Redneck

I don't think I like were this is heading. With a boat that was so Well Crafted why did they miss such an important detail on strength

Who said these V's were so well crafted ?

Of the four boats I've owned, and the many boats I've been on........I'll say this:

The V is a lot of boat for a 21' in that it has lots of room, storage in the cuddy, is very pretty and runs well especially with trim tabs.
Wellcraft COULD have built these to be better crafted, but instead may have been " penny pinching" in certain areas. Therefore, many of these have to get some work to make right.
Example - the floor / deck - underside was not glassed in, so water can infiltrate and cause soft spots.

That said - many builders used wood back in the 80's and 90's so it's common.
Mako for comparison was building very sturdy boats in the 80's and early 90's - beefy construction, thicker, more fiberglass, but still need work today as transoms and such get waterlogged after 15-20 years in the weather.

My V21.....ok, so I'm lucky.

Destroyer · #20 08-30-2012, 11:51 PM

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I don't think I like were this is heading. With a boat that was so Well Crafted why did they miss such an important detail on strength

There are a lot of little things that in hindsight I think could have been done better. Things like drains in the rod holders so they don't pour water directly on the compartments under them with foam in them...things like the transom bracket attachment that we're talking about here.... Things like cronic leaking from the front sliding hatch into the cuddy cabin. That doesn't make the 21 a bad boat,... far from it. They are sleek, well crafted boats with a proven hull design that will get you home when a lot of other boats won't. I'm going to sell my V20. But my V21 is here to stay. That should say something.