New Throne for the Captain advise

[willy]

Been waiting for the right one to come along, found it this week, it out of a 31 foot Contender. Will be a real good change from my two too low helm chairs.
Need advise on a couple of things.
-These were installed on the Contender with just screws into the cockpit floor. Is that the norm?

-when i remove my pedestal seats there is going to be six hole I think each, best way to fill and finish so I don't look like a podunk on the water?

-doing bolts where the seats were and where this is going to go, no real access, should I use one of those marine expansion screw set ups. Do they hold up well?

- you see the foot rest on the front, well there are the same exact mounting brackets on the back, any idea what those are for? they are too high for a cooler holder and it came with a strap set up for that.

-cup holders are missing for the holes you see, is that something you can normally buy somewhere?

- I know, I am a pain in the arse!

[spareparts]

my buddy that does t-tops and leaning post down here uses #14 screws to hold them down

[step up here]

hey Willy why not try calling the phone number on the decal i would think they would tell you how to mount it and then some. looks awesome hope it works for you.

[phatdaddy]

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...classNum=10825

willy, i used something like this for some spring line cleats on the v. i was a little leary of them , but they work well and are pretty easy to use.

even better would be to put in an inspection plate and use fender washers and nylock nuts. i hate a floppy seat...

[THEFERMANATOR]

Mine was mounted down with #14 stainless screws and alot of 5200 and she never budged even in some NASTY water. As for the old bolt holes, I would use some git rot to initially fill the holes if it is a wood core so as to encapsulate it so water can't get into the core. Then use a gel coat patch kit and color match it to make them not so much of an eyesore and cover em over. If you can get to the underside though, I would through bolt it with 1/4 stainless. If not just the 5200 and #14 stainless screws. As for teh rear mounts, it could have been for some outriggers maybe?

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by step up here

hey Willy why not try calling the phone number on the decal i would think they would tell you how to mount it and then some. looks awesome hope it works for you.

When you call that number, they can also tell you what the rear mounts are for...

If you just screw it to the floor deck, you"ll eventually regret it...the #14 Spare recommends are the only way to go for a bolt-down that's gonna get that much abuse...being tall like that, the LEVERAGE factor w/the weight at the top, in seas will be BIG...peeps LEANING against it in rough water, etc...not to mention vibration...#14s I'm pretty sure are same as 1/4"...and the toggles Phat Daddy shows above are the are the way to go. unless there is access under the deck and you can use nylocks and fender-washers...

W/either fastener, you'll wanna bed 'em down w/4200 or 5200...but let me show you something...

This as a "butterfly" toggler that was inserted thru so much silicone that it stuck to the side of the screw and was rendered useless...it never opened under the deck...
W/the ones PD shows, I don't think this can happen, but still, I would put all fasteners in place (dry fit) and then apply the bedding...4 small wedges under the feet will lift it while you squirt the juice to to it...
BUT BEFORE you do all that, coat the insides of all the new holes you've just drilled thru the core w/some epoxy resin or equal so seal 'em up good, lest floor rot invades FishBones!!...

Wish I could scoot back up there and give you a hand w/that install, but kinda got my hands full at the moment...and I wouldn't be surprised if the seats that come out don't find their way to a venerable V-20 somewhere...LOL!!

Show us some pics of your new throne installation in the Floating Pleasure Palace, there King-O!!...

[willy]

Aw shucks, that was my next question, are you bringing beer?

Thanks fellows

[SkunkBoat]

Originally Posted by phatdaddy

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...classNum=10825

willy, i used something like this for some spring line cleats on the v. i was a little leary of them , but they work well and are pretty easy to use.

even better would be to put in an inspection plate and use fender washers and nylock nuts. i hate a floppy seat...

I also used these to remount my pedestal seat and they worked great. 1/4" stainless machine screws.
On my 84 cuddy, only 4 holes bolted thru the other 2 were screwed into the stringers.

I'm thinking maybe there was a fold-up cutting board on the back of that chair?

[jasoncooperpcola]

Since it was probably custom made for the Contender and not a generic size, i would think that the brackets lined up with the edge of the console, both of which, would be screwed directly into the stringers.

As for the rear brackets they could be to mount another foot rest pipe on, for more rod holders. ALso on Contenders website this is an option for seating for the 30 Tournament, "Tournament leaning post (Features tray, cooler base, (4) rod holders and folding footrest)" This is right off Condender's website.

The holes in the floor? I will let someone else chime in on that one.

As far as the toggle bolts i have not used them on my boats. But i have used them for mounting shelving, tv brackets, etc in restaurants, bars etc,. IMO they are as strong as an equivalent size bolt and nut with a fender washer. We always put 1/2 or 3/4 plywood on the studs before sheetrock to anchor stuff to. Its strong. One builing owner didn't like the idea. I told him if he could rip the shelving down i will replace it with his choice of fasteners on MY time and dime. After a couple tries he gave up.

[reelapeelin]

Willy, I looked down into the pedistal that's original on this '84...I haven't confirmed it yet, but it appears to be a 3-4" hole thru the floor deck under the center of the pedistal...hope this not the case on yours...