1990 Yamaha 200ETXD - any good?

yodaddy · #1 04-08-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer

Well, that was from Yamaha's website with a 20 foot boat of about the same weight and dimensions as a V20, so understand that they might shade their figures a tad.... but in all cases as far as I can see that's a good engine and if you don't want it I'd be willing to bet you'd get a ton of people wanting to buy it from you.

As long as it beats the 4.5mpg I get with a 3.7L I/O I'll be happy

THEFERMANATOR · #2 04-08-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by yodaddy

As long as it beats the 4.5mpg I get with a 3.7L I/O I'll be happy

Not gonna happen. That engine should burn about 12 gallons per hour at a 3800 RPM cruise I would guess which on a V should have you running about 30-35 roughly. So 2.5-3 MPG is about the best you will probably ever see from it, but 2-2.5 MPG is much more realistic for a 2 stroke carbed outboard. It's hard to beat an I/O for fuel milage unless you've got a 4 stroke outboard. On the bright side though them old YAMAHA's tend to run forever with virtually no maintence except for the shift rods(which is easily fixable).

reelapeelin · #3 04-08-2011, 01:35 PM

Sounds like ya did good, Y'daddy!!...if it were mine and if this is doable on that particular motor, I'd yank the automatic oiling stem outta that thing quick...mixing is easy w/one of those graduated bottles...and it's a WHOLE LOT easier than fixin' that puppy after the auto-oiler fails and cooks your Yammie...

Hopefully some of the guys who KNOW will hop on here and tell ya if it can be done on that motor...

yodaddy · #4 04-08-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by reelapeelin

Sounds like ya did good, Y'daddy!!...if it were mine and if this is doable on that particular motor, I'd yank the automatic oiling stem outta that thing quick...mixing is easy w/one of those graduated bottles...and it's a WHOLE LOT easier than fixin' that puppy after the auto-oiler fails and cooks your Yammie...

Hopefully some of the guys who KNOW will hop on here and tell ya if it can be done on that motor...

My thoughts exactly. I don't trust auto-oilers, and prefer to mix my own.

captpete13 · #5 04-08-2011, 03:55 PM

my 225 gets 12-14 gph @4000 rpms which is pushing the boat at 30 knots. Don't get rid of the oil injection. The pump is gear driven off the crank and will never fail. You will waste a lot of oil going to premix.

THEFERMANATOR · #6 04-09-2011, 10:13 AM

YAMAHA's oil injection is one of the best second only to SUZUKI's(the only reason SUZUKI's is better is because there reservoir is under the cowling instead of remote mounted). They have a bronze gear on the crank and a steel drive gear for the pump shaft, so VERY few failures there. There only weak point is the remote oil tank set-up which is dependant on a switch and oil pump to get oil up to the engine. The pump is VERY reliable as it is rubber encased, but the switches do fail every so often. As for swapping out your I/O, I wouldn't. The 3.7L is a good engine for the most part, and will be HARD to beat for economy and reliability.

yodaddy · #7 04-09-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR

YAMAHA's oil injection is one of the best second only to SUZUKI's(the only reason SUZUKI's is better is because there reservoir is under the cowling instead of remote mounted). They have a bronze gear on the crank and a steel drive gear for the pump shaft, so VERY few failures there. There only weak point is the remote oil tank set-up which is dependant on a switch and oil pump to get oil up to the engine. The pump is VERY reliable as it is rubber encased, but the switches do fail every so often. As for swapping out your I/O, I wouldn't. The 3.7L is a good engine for the most part, and will be HARD to beat for economy and reliability.

When I saw the 2.5-3mpg estimates I banished all thoughts of putting this outboard on my V. It's on a center console I picked up, and that's probably where I'll leave it.

I fired the motor up in the driveway today and it seems to run fine. I did notice an odd 'ting' sound every time I shifted from either forward or reverse into neutral. I had the cover off and eventually noticed what was happening was whenever I went into neutral the starter was engaging and bouncing off the flywheel. Ever run into this problem?

reelapeelin · #8 04-10-2011, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by captpete13

my 225 gets 12-14 gph @4000 rpms which is pushing the boat at 30 knots. Don't get rid of the oil injection. The pump is gear driven off the crank and will never fail. You will waste a lot of oil going to premix.

Hey Pete!!...I can't help it...I still leary of auto-oilers...so many other items to fail...switches, lines, intakes...my BIL's auto-oiler failed cuz the intake in the tank clogged and fried his motor...

captpete13 · #9 04-10-2011, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by reelapeelin

Hey Pete!!...I can't help it...I still leary of auto-oilers...so many other items to fail...switches, lines, intakes...my BIL's auto-oiler failed cuz the intake in the tank clogged and fried his motor...

Hey Oz, I see why you are skeptical about oil injection. A blown powerhead would piss me off too.
OMC's VRO yes I would get rid of. Merc 2.5 efi plastic crank gear and NO motion sensor yes get rid of. The only problem with tha Yamaha system especially from '90 on up is that the control module for the oil injection is built it to the ecu and not a seperate unit. So if it fails(very rare but I have seen it happen) you need to drop $1000 for a new ecu. There is a small inline filter on the remote oil tank back by the electric pump. If that is replaced every other year or so the system should be trouble free.

yodaddy · #10 04-08-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR

Not gonna happen. That engine should burn about 12 gallons per hour at a 3800 RPM cruise I would guess which on a V should have you running about 30-35 roughly. So 2.5-3 MPG is about the best you will probably ever see from it, but 2-2.5 MPG is much more realistic for a 2 stroke carbed outboard. It's hard to beat an I/O for fuel milage unless you've got a 4 stroke outboard. On the bright side though them old YAMAHA's tend to run forever with virtually no maintence except for the shift rods(which is easily fixable).

I know 4 strokes get better economy than 2 strokes, but never having owned a large 2 stroke I wasn't sure of how great a difference to expect. Hearing that I'd get up to 8mpg had me going though!

The motor is on a 21' center console I just picked up. I'll run it on that boat and see what kind of mileage it gets. It will have to be an impressive ride in order to get me to swap my 3.7 I/O to an outboard though.