Yamaha 225 4 stroke to heavy?

[BenFishin]

I sold the merc. the piston went through the block. Actually got 1k for it. It was a 2001. I have trim tabs BTW. When i had the merc and that make shift livewell in the deck filled to the brim plus some spilt over in the bilge. i hardly noticed a difference in the ride.

[macojoe]

if you wanted a submarine i would say you right on target!! Way to much weight and power for that boat, but hey to each his own, hey why not go with twins

[BenFishin]

Twins would be heavier then the 4 stroke. and probably faster...?

[BenFishin]

And are you saying the boat isnt going to float with the stronger glass? not sure of the submarine comment?

[THEFERMANATOR]

DON'T DO IT!!!!
A member here had a 225 HONDA transom mounted and it was too heavy for his center console. The boat had VERY poor performance numbers and just never did what it should have. If going with a bracket I would look to what DUSKY has done with there 203 as it is based off of the V-20 hull(but slightly changed to work with a bracket). Also consider moving your fuel tank forward and putting your batteries in the very bow if your going with a bracketed CC. I would be looking at a 200 small block ETEC if your going new, or a 175 OPTIMAX. 4 strokes are going to be on the heavy side with your bracketed boat unless you go on the low side with HP like a 140 SUZUKI or 150 YAMAHA. I would try and keep the engine weight under 400 and use a shorter set-back bracket and make a notch in the transom to clear the engine cowling(or just not trim it up all the way).

[BenFishin]

This is closed transom from the factory, im not cutting a notch in it just so i can run a shorter set back. The bracket that i ran the 200 merc (416lbs) on was plenty of fine with trim tabs and the original location of my batteries in the back, console, and tank in the back. I moved the console forward mainly for fishing room in the back but will help with weight. A bracketed Center console is lighter then the original sea drive with the big v6 on it. the sea drive unit itself weighed 150lbs not including the motor. The way i look at it i have 5 more inches of set back then the sea drive and 70 more pounds with the f225. As for the Honda. a couple of years ago their 225 weighed 690 pounds. Thats insane. Hondas were, im not sure about now, notorious for thier weight. I remember 4 years ago the 130 weighed 500lbs. The 140 suzuki i looked into really hard, however i would like a higher top end then 38-40 mph. I cannot stand a mercury so the optimax is out of the picture. I sure wish i could afford an etec tho... 200HP 433lbs would be perfect. Can you explain the Dusky thing? i dont quite understand.

[THEFERMANATOR]

I have a sea-drive boat, but the weight isn't as far back on a sea-drive as a bracketed boat. YAMAHA has drawn ALOT of critiscism over there stated weight as they tend to be about 50 pounds heavier than the weight they say. YAMAHA states there weight with no prop, no fuel in the engine, no oil in the engine or lower unit, just the bare engine. HONDA states the weight of there engine dressed out like it would be on the boat. The 150/175 SUZUKI weighs about the same as the 150 YAMAHA coming in under 500. DUSKY currentlu builds there 203 based off of the original V-20 and they are all bracketed boats.

You need to keep in mind the actual weight on the YAMAHA 225 is around 650 dressed out plus 75 pounds or so for the bracket, so you have 725 pounds back there with that combo. The 225 2.7L SEA-DRIVE weighed in under 625 even with power steering on it, 610 for the plane jane. So that's 115 pounds more back there. The other thing is the sea-drive kept alot more weight forward vs all on the back. Also not many V-20 CC's(if any) got the V-6 sea-drive from the factory, most got the 1.6L(465 pounds) or 2.0L V-4's(540 pounds). Also the set-back on a sea-drive is 16 inches, and the standadrd set-back on a bracket is 30.

So now were talking 14 inches more set-back than origanally designed for, and add in roughly 185 pounds. Now your talking a pretty noticeable change that will seriously alter the CG. Moving your console forward was a definate plus as well as the fuel tank. Also keep in mind factory sea-drives already had the tank moved pretty far forward to begin with. Putting the batteries under the console would be mandatory, but furthur forward would help even more.

My V-20 cuddy with a 1.6L sea-drive in my opinion was stern heavy, and you don't have the cuddy weight up in the bow either. Would hate to see you go through all of this and have a boat that doesn't do what you envisioned.

Heres a link to the DUSKY 203 that is based off of the V-20.
http://www.dusky.com/boats/dus203.html