so who are you voting for

[nymack66]

Here is my thought on this whole issue from an open-minded person.
I basally look at an election, as an opportunity to change or not to change the course a country is on.
Ray Charles can see we are on a path if not corrected will change us to third world nation before you know it.
We need something, and you can word it any way one likes change, direction whatever.
Simple question and simple solution, if you feel we are on a correct course today than eight years ago vote your conscience.
If you are better off today than eight years ago vote your conscience.
Voting seems to divide us why?
Different thinking is the same reason all of us are not millionaires who will tell us apart?
Always vote for what’s right for this great country.
After the election we still be V’s owners and drinking Beer!
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND WE WILL PREVAIL NO MATTER WHO WINS!
Ps:
I am a registered Democrat who voted Democratic only twice, the rest was what was right for the country.

[Mac_Attack]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_103718.html

[cterrebonne]

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR

Besides, I thought we fought a big war to run them back across the big pond.

yeah you right, to prove how the britts arent good at finance, they royal govt still is paying out interest payments via perpetual annuities from the war of 1812.

[THEFERMANATOR]

I may be one of the few who feels that BUSH has actually not been that bad of a POTUS. The POTUS doesn't have complete control like many believe he does, he is more of a figure in the overall scheme of things. The CONGRESS is the puppeteer, and since it went to the D's we have been on a downward spiral IMO. The problem I see here is that what makes everybody happy isn't neccesarily the right thing. Too many out there are going along with there blinders on and are looking for a fall guy to blame rather than to put the responsibilty where it belongs. I personally don't see how we can afford OBAMA and his plans, but I also don't agree with much of MC CAINS either. Out of the two though, MC CAIN is by far the clear choice. I personally feel that RON PAUL could have done wonders for us as a nation, but he doesn't appeal to the masses. Too many out there have come to expect the government troiugh to feed from, and until that ends things will not change no matter who is POTUS.

[cterrebonne]

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR

I may be one of the few who feels that BUSH has actually not been that bad of a POTUS. The POTUS doesn't have complete control like many believe he does, he is more of a figure in the overall scheme of things. The CONGRESS is the puppeteer, and since it went to the D's we have been on a downward spiral IMO. The problem I see here is that what makes everybody happy isn't neccesarily the right thing. Too many out there are going along with there blinders on and are looking for a fall guy to blame rather than to put the responsibilty where it belongs. I personally don't see how we can afford OBAMA and his plans, but I also don't agree with much of MC CAINS either. Out of the two though, MC CAIN is by far the clear choice. I personally feel that RON PAUL could have done wonders for us as a nation, but he doesn't appeal to the masses. Too many out there have come to expect the government troiugh to feed from, and until that ends things will not change no matter who is POTUS.

i agree with you, they blame bush because its easier to point the finger to one person than to blame many others. Plus he isnt a great public speaker so that makes him an easier target.

[bradford]

I plead the 5th on all of the above.

[parishht]

I just keep thinking of a book thta I was required to read in high school
during the 70's, it even was a TV movie and I feel it still should be required reading.
The story is called "The Wave" and I believe it is a true story about a teacher
that wanted to show how Hitler was able to come to power with a silver tongue.

I am not calling any candidate a Hitler, but what I am saying is that there are
a lot of sheep that follow blindly into slaughter without finding out the true facts.
There are a number of countries where this has happened and is currently happening.
I would hate to see the U.S. go in that direction,
all it would take is a few constitutional amandments and then we are sunk.

[overboard]

This thread (as long as it stays civil) is one of the reasons that our country is so great. We need to have different opinions and we need to be openly discussing them in a respectful manner.

[nymack66]

Originally Posted by overboard

This thread (as long as it stays civil) is one of the reasons that our country is so great. We need to have different opinions and we need to be openly discussing them in a respectful manner.

Amen to that..

[willy]

Mac that article in the Huffington Post was misleading to say the least, first of all the Pelosi led congress has refused to allow bills to the floor which McCain would have voted for because of the election year. In fact read the summary of the 2007 2008 congressional record. Their whole record was fraught with bills and planned negative votes and vetoes to do one thing and one thing only, get a dem in the whitehouse in 2008, where they would have absolute power to do whatever their agenda is. That agenda is a european socialist style state. Government control and intervention in every aspect of our lives and buisnesses. Don't believe that do research even on the annointed ones site and see what he is proposing and has proposed for us all.
McCain has stood by the PRESIDENT, the Commander in Chief, in times of War, he did not agree with how the war was being initially conducted and was one of the senators who pressured Bush into listening to the commanders on the ground and putting the troops needed there to do the job. Was the war the best thing for us, probably not. But look at Iraq now, look what our boys have done in a short time to turn it around. In the end the stability created there may be something that leads to peace in the middle east.
I say maybe, that is not because it can't happen, not because we are not militarily able to do it but because our nation is being led by a bunch of congressmen and women, along with Obamination who have made a calculated decision to place their political agenda ahead of the nations soldiers, ahead of the nations best interest to come out as victors in this war. They have referred to our troops as savages, criminals, incompetents, tried to cut off funding to the troops, led a mass campaigne to denegrate the commander in chief in times of war and showed the whole world that the congress is not behind our troops.

that is why McCain has to vote with the President in these matters and it was calculated to force him to do so, along with every other man and woman of concience in that house.
McCain has placed himself in a position where he has placed the fate of our troops, our country ahead of his political aspirations and is taking the heat for it.
Arguments against the war itself abound, many things are confusing and we still probably don't know the whole truth, and I certainly am not going to say it was the right thing to do looking now with hindsight what the entire congress and the president voted to do at the time based on what they had to look at then.
I will say that what happened after, the behavior of this congress, more specificaly the Obamination and the democratic leadership who controls congress has been nothing less than treason. In a better time, an earlier time when men stood up based on their principles, what is best thing for our nation, these people would have been charged with treason for the things they have said and done for personal gain.
I don't want four more years of Bush, but I most certainly do not want any years of socialism for me and my children and if the Obamination gets into office that is exactly what you will have in short order and you will have absolutely nothing to say about it. And that is by no means a exageration.