A little OBAMA history

THEFERMANATOR · #1 04-22-2008, 11:24 PM

Don't watch right after eating, it can turn your stomach.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036

Fishphanatic · #2 04-24-2008, 04:00 PM

WOW........Well Done.

valiant_200 · #3 04-25-2008, 10:17 AM

I followed that link and this is what I got:

"You are not allowed to view this content unless it is approved."

I guess I must have been too liberal for them. Despite not getting to see the video, I can guess how it went. Eyeblast.tv is an organ of the Media Research Center, a conservative group whos stated goal is "documenting, exposing and neutralizing liberal media bias."

I have worked in media for years and I always get a kick out of claims that the established news media leans liberal. That is simply not the truth, nor has it ever been. News organizations are owned by large corporations that are, by nature, conservative. While it is true that the 24/7 news channels will air anything that gets them ratings, (war sells), they ALL tend to skew conservative. The New York Times is often accused of having a liberal bias, but administration scare stories published in the Times were largely responsible for our getting into the war in Iraq. Perpetuating the false boogeyman of "Liberal Media" is a tool that has successfully manipulated at least a generation of Americans. So beware the videos that you see online denigrating or, for that matter, trumpeting any particular candidate. They might be good for a laugh, but the best way to learn about the candidates is to look at their voting records and see if you agree with their decisions. You can get unbiased info on the candidates at www.votesmart.org

Fishphanatic · #4 04-25-2008, 12:17 PM

So you are telling me that NBC and CNN are not bias? I get a kick out of you saying that all the media is conservative.............

I take it you are voting for Obama?

bradford · #5 04-25-2008, 02:13 PM

I'm torn between writing in Skools Out or Stinky Hooker. Then there's Ferm....Maybe Tsubaki................................

willy · #6 04-25-2008, 02:50 PM

with all due respect to your opinion you are either hanging out smoking something illegal or you have been living in a bubble. I too have spent a great many years dealing with the major news media knowing the facts and seeing what is reported and how.
Maybe in some areas of the country you have some organizations that actually report the facts but the major news media (print cable and network) are so blatantly left wing that I no longer consider them news media at all but a tool of those that lean that way and whose editorializing of all the news is bordering on propaganda.
That being said I generally lean on the conservative side of most issues or as I really see it, on the American side of those issues I am also more centrist or liberal on some. As I believe anybody who uses their own head is.
But your statement flies in the face of reason and reason is something very important to maintain in this world of ours.

THEFERMANATOR · #7 04-25-2008, 03:26 PM

It was deleted

, and mysteriously the user on youtube that had it is gone now too

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Fishphanatic · #8 04-25-2008, 03:35 PM

Willy you and I are of the same opinion.

I do not want to hijack the thread and swing it to a political debate about the media so I will state my case on Obama. There is something about Obama that is just plain scary. If even a quarter of the things that are mentioned in that video are true, you can't help but question if this man is fit to lead the greatest country on earth. He is too reckless in his ideology and I feel that is directly related to his mentor/pastor that he has been influenced by for the last 18 years. As you can tell I am a Republican and to even say this makes me quiver but if it came down to Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama I would have to pick Mrs. Clinton. JMHO and nothing more.

Irregardless my vote will go for the candidated that I feel is best fit to lead this country whether it is a Rep, Dem, black, white, male, or female and with the candidates at hand my vote will be for John McCain.

valiant_200 · #9 04-25-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishphanatic

So you are telling me that NBC and CNN are not bias? I get a kick out of you saying that all the media is conservative.............

I take it you are voting for Obama?

I don't know as I will vote this time out, but if I don't it will be the first presidential election that I have sat out in years. Really, I don't care for any of the candidates and the general election is a joke anyway. (Witness the insanity surrounding the 2000 election as a reference.) That isn't the point anyway. To answer your main question yes, I do believe the media has a bias and it is NOT liberal. You have to follow the money and Liberals don't have any real money, or at least they didn't until the rise of the practice of gathering campaign contributions online. Big money is almost always conservative.

There is a lot of money to be made in wars, especially by the media. Ratings on the 24/7 cable news channels skyrockets when a war breaks out. Perhaps you missed the story that broke this weekend about the former officers turned military analysts who went on the cable news channels and chatted up the administration's talking points for months in the beginning of the war. Turns out they were not just former officers, they were also private contractors hired by the Pentagon to make sure the right "spin" was placed on the news coverage.

People's opinions have been manipulated by The Media for years, but most of them are not even aware it is happening and I don't expect that to change. Nobody wants to believe it when you point it out anyway. That is true genius at work.

valiant_200 · #10 04-25-2008, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willy

with all due respect to your opinion you are either hanging out smoking something illegal or you have been living in a bubble. I too have spent a great many years dealing with the major news media knowing the facts and seeing what is reported and how.

What is your work in the media?