Trump 2020,2024,2028

[bgreene]

Crazy times ......I was very hopeful based on the original concept Trump brought.....while concerned that his dealing ways wouldn’t fit the office.
I’m still pro on a few of his positions, but I find him to be his own worst enemy.

I know this new thing labeling anything you don’t like as “ fake” isn’t in the best interest ofour country and our people.So I’m going to wait and see ......and no ......I don’t see all Dems or Republicans as being
“ the same” .

[Pipe_Dream]

I see very little difference between any of the Dem candidates. I did find Gabbard to be a little more palatable, but still her policies are more left than I am, and the Demomediastablishment has its claws out for her. I couldn't vote for any of the leading Dem candidates from what I've seen so far.

Did the title for this thread change?

[SkunkBoat]

Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream

Did the title for this thread change?

Which one of those years does he get out of jail?

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

Which one of those years does he get out of jail?

You mean for visiting with some of the crooked Bidens, or for visiting some of the traitorous Democrats that are trying to effect a coup on the duly elected President of the United States?

[XXL]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

You mean for visiting with some of the crooked Bidens, or for visiting some of the traitorous Democrats that are trying to effect a coup on the duly elected President of the United States?

Here's a link to get you started so you'll be up to speed by the time President Trump is out of office in 2020. I'd like it to be earlier but have no confidence in the feckless Republican senators to put their oath of office and the Constitution before party loyalty. Feel free to do a google search for - What charges can be brought against Donald Trump once he's out of office- see what you can find.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...e-house-227050

Merry Christmas!

[Pipe_Dream]

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by XXL

Here's a link to get you started so you'll be up to speed by the time President Trump is out of office in 2020. I'd like it to be earlier but have no confidence in the feckless Republican senators to put their oath of office and the Constitution before party loyalty. Feel free to do a google search for - What charges can be brought against Donald Trump once he's out of office- see what you can find.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...e-house-227050

Merry Christmas!

If he was that "guilty" of all those charges then tell me why all the Dems are charging him with is Obstruction of Congress and Abuse of Power. What a sham... Is that all they can come up with after all this bull$hit and wasting of taxpayer's money? Since there has been no trial he cannot be accused of obstruction, since he has never been afforded, in a court of law, the ability to confront his accuser and to present his defense. The Democrats are making up their own laws as they go along. First it was Quid pro Quo, then when they couldn't prove that they switched to Bribery (that their focus groups told them would resonate with the public), then when that didn't work out they switched to this latest bunch of MALARKEY.

As for the abuse charge, what did he abuse? As the chief executive he has the RIGHT, (actually, the obligation) under the Constitution, to make requests of any foreign government into any possible corruption by any US citizen.
And I hardly need to point out that the Political is nothing but a left wing democrat mouthpiece. Anything that you read there can be taken with a grain of sand.

The American public isn't dumb, they see through this sham and I'm telling you right now, the Dems are handing Trump a win in 2020.

[XXL]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

If he was that "guilty" of all those charges then tell me why all the Dems are charging him with is Obstruction of Congress and Abuse of Power. What a sham... Is that all they can come up with after all this bull$hit and wasting of taxpayer's money? Since there has been no trial he cannot be accused of obstruction, since he has never been afforded, in a court of law, the ability to confront his accuser and to present his defense. The Democrats are making up their own laws as they go along. First it was Quid pro Quo, then when they couldn't prove that they switched to Bribery (that their focus groups told them would resonate with the public), then when that didn't work out they switched to this latest bunch of MALARKEY.

As for the abuse charge, what did he abuse? As the chief executive he has the RIGHT, (actually, the obligation) under the Constitution, to make requests of any foreign government into any possible corruption by any US citizen.
And I hardly need to point out that the Political is nothing but a left wing democrat mouthpiece. Anything that you read there can be taken with a grain of sand.

The American public isn't dumb, they see through this sham and I'm telling you right now, the Dems are handing Trump a win in 2020.

It's not a sham and it's really pretty simple. First off, your assertion that Politico is a left wing democrat mouthpiece is simply NOT factual, It's rated as one of the least biased and most factual news sources available: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politico/
Cruise around that site and see how the news sources you rely on are rated for comparison. Do a search for Fox News, Breitbart, Sinclair, or maybe you're into OANN by now, I don't know, but check it out.

Secondly, The impeachment process does not have to have a crime associated with it to be a valid tool to remove a person from office. Precedents are already in existence to bear that out.

Third, The House is NOT responsible for Trying the President in a trial setting, that's the job of the Senate with the Chief Justice (Roberts) presiding. President Trump was offered the opportunity to participate in the House proceeding, but declined. Which brings us to your question about Obstruction of Congress. Not only did President Trump refuse to participate in the House Process, he willfully withheld documents, phone records and White House personnel from the process thereby obstructing Congress's oversight responsibility. See, that was simple.

Fourth, Abuse of Power; The President DOES have the right to investigate corruption or any other activity by a foreign government receiving aid from the US. However, he doesn't have the right to use Congressionally mandated, taxpayer provided funds, in the neighborhood of $400 million as leverage to obtain foreign assistance in denigrating his primary opponent in the upcoming election. It's against Federal Election Commission rules for any candidate to receive something of value from a foreign entity to help in an election.

The Democrats aren't "making up their own laws" as they go along, that's just an ignorant statement. I'll grant you the Democrats are trying to find a way to phrase the charges to best describe the inappropriateness of the President's behavior, but when you're in a target-rich environment it's hard to settle on just a couple. Whether it's shagging a porn-star and then paying her off in secret while your wife's home with the new baby, or mocking a disabled reporter by acting like a spazz, or most lately, jealous-tweeting about Time magazine's Person of the Year, there are many examples of this President's unsuitability for office. None of which will mean anything to you because of your bias. But, hey okay, we all have biases and we can agree to disagree.

Finally, talking about waste of taxpayer money, $114,000,000 for golf trips. The expense of these hearings pales in comparison.

You may be right about President Trump being re-elected, but in my opinion, the fact that the Democrats are up-holding what I see as their right of oversight provided for in the Constitution, and staying true to the oath they took to protect the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic, underscores why this is NOT a sham. And if President Trump is re-elected, we'll still be here pushing back on the things that are not in support of the Nation's best interest or against established practice and law.

All my best,
XXL

[mawshj]

Originally Posted by XXL

Here's a link to get you started so you'll be up to speed by the time President Trump is out of office in 2020. I'd like it to be earlier but have no confidence in the feckless Republican senators to put their oath of office and the Constitution before party loyalty. Feel free to do a google search for - What charges can be brought against Donald Trump once he's out of office- see what you can find.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...e-house-227050

Merry Christmas!

if you think that these charges could be used against citizen trump , are you sure that they could not also be used against you??

[XXL]

Originally Posted by mawshj

if you think that these charges could be used against citizen trump , are you sure that they could not also be used against you??

Well, I don't know. I don't underestimate the perfidiousness of a judicial system that convicts innocent people, however, since I haven't engaged in any of the activities that have put President Trump in the position he's in, I think it's highly doubtful I have anything to worry about. Never say never, though.