Rod holder ?

[BillTex]

Originally Posted by garbubba

My 83 V came from Florida & someone was using it for trolling like you want to do. It has two outrigger mounts forward, a pair of rod holders angled out as much as possible behind that, and two more straight back. That's a lot of lines in a small boat.

Nice...some pics would be great...

Tx, Bill

[BillTex]

Hi all, someone over on THT suggested 0* swivel rod holders all around. This would certainly address the gunnel clearance issue with the V20, and enable positioning the rods as needed for trolling, drifting, etc.

I can't for the life of me see why this isn't a great solution...any thoughts?

Seems like the best idea...

Tx, Bill

[SkunkBoat]

do you have bent butt rods?? Otherwise, where are you going to swivel?

[BillTex]

Hey skunk
Last two boats had swivels just in rear corners. Fished straight stand ups , no bent butts. Swivel always kept the rod/guides/line in optimal direction no matter where the fish ran.
We usually fish short handed...2 or 3. When you get Multiple hook ups one rod may sit in a holder for a while

Those boats were rigged when i purchased them. The v has no holes in it...a blank slate
Trying to "measure 2x...cut once"...

Back in the day we just dropped a golf ball in the rod holder...that was our "swivel"

Tx, bill

[SkunkBoat]

That's fine for the corner and fighting a fish but you want to spread multiple lines while trolling and not have them cross on a hookup.

Use an outrodder in a 0* fwd of the rod box and a "Kite" double rod holder in a 30* straight back furthest aft. The the lower rod gets a flat line clip, upper line will be the wfb line

[SkunkBoat]

here is a shot of my rig trolling for bft/mahi.
This is before I mounted the GemLux rod holders aft.

Here, on each side, I have 0* fwd of rod box running to outrigger, 30* aft of rod box running wtfb, and flatline in a surface mount rodholder near the "bait bin" angled abeam

oh...and a wwwtfb up in the top down the middle

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[BillTex]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

That's fine for the corner and fighting a fish but you want to spread multiple lines while trolling and not have them cross on a hookup.

Use an outrodder in a 0* fwd of the rod box and a "Kite" double rod holder in a 30* straight back furthest aft. The the lower rod gets a flat line clip, upper line will be the wfb line

Thanks-yes agree-so what you are suggesting is there is no point in using swivels other than at transom?

The other 2 positions can be fixed (no advantage to swivel)?

Your suggestion (correct me if wrong);
Transom corners = 0* swivels
Mid gunnel = 30* fixed
Closest to helm = 0* fixed with outrodder

Assuming you can place 2 rods in each outrodder-this would actually allow me to fish 8 lines?! Might get a little tight if I can't spread them out enough...

Edit; skink do you have a pick of the cockpit/gunnels while you are running that spread shown in the pic above?

Thank you!

Bill

P.s. Love your setup with the hard top and riggers...

[SkunkBoat]

0* corners is a problem because, while trolling, the line from the 30* will hit it if you don't have a bent butt rod in the 0*

The key is to have the tips of the rods such that while trolling AND when hooked up, the line from a forward rod doesn't tangle an aft rod tip.

the double rodholder does that by putting the rear rod lower than the forward rod. I would use this as pictured, both rods pointed aft. The forward rod on a long outrigger and the aft rod on the short rigger(assuming you have large outriggers. the riggers on my boat would not allow a long & short.). I would not point the double rodholder type outward while trolling.
The single outrodder type is made for that.(use a safety lanyard)

On our V20s you are going to be hard pressed to run 8 lines, especially without outriggers. The most I've run is 7 and it ain't easy, even when you're NOT catching fish.
I've run 5 without outriggers no problem but riggers make a better spread