Trump or crooked hillary vote for one I will start

[yodaddy]

Trump.

We are totally thoroughly screwed if the marxist Clinton gets in. 56% of the population doesn't trust her, the mainstream media is shilling for her, most polls oversample democrats, and she is hiding from the public because whenever she opens her mouth her poll numbers drop, even with the oversampling.

If there was a fair and open election tomorrow Trump would win hands down.

I heard yesterday that Homeland Security is going to take charge of the election. Does that give anyone the warm fuzzies? Like Joe Stalin said - "it doesn't matter who casts the votes, what matters is who counts the votes". The voting machines are probably already precoded to toss the election to Hillary.

[SkunkBoat]

Originally Posted by yodaddy

trump.

We are totally thoroughly screwed if the marxist clinton gets in. 56% of the population doesn't trust her, the mainstream media is shilling for her, most polls oversample democrats, and she is hiding from the public because whenever she opens her mouth her poll numbers drop, even with the oversampling.

If there was a fair and open election tomorrow trump would win hands down.

I heard yesterday that homeland security is going to take charge of the election. Does that give anyone the warm fuzzies? Like joe stalin said - "it doesn't matter who casts the votes, what matters is who counts the votes". The voting machines are probably already precoded to toss the election to hillary.

wow!

[THEFERMANATOR]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

wow!

And myself and I'm sure several others said the same to your response above his. It's the nature of politics, people believe what they believe, and thats about it. So you say wow to his post, when I'm betting several here agree with much of it. You have your views, just like each of us has our own differing viewpoints.

[13Echo70271]

As Abraham Lincoln once said.........

[yodaddy]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

wow!

Hillary was/is an acolyte of the marxist agitator Saul Alinsky. If you're not familiar with him google his name, and then check out his book "Rules for Radicals". It's a point by point instruction manual for disrupting a society. Alinsky was the subject of her Master's thesis at Wellesley College.

I've followed the Clintons since the 80s. They are in this for power, nothing more, nothing less. Hillary used her position as Secretary of State to funnel $156 million into the Clinton Foundation. This isn't conspiracy whacko ****, it's fact. People paid the foundation money, and they got access to Clinton. Here's an example of their M.O. - a link to a NY Times article about Clinton facilitating sales of uranium to Russia in exchange for money - http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us...m-company.html

[Destroyer]

And I like the fact that The party of Abe Lincoln (Republicans) abolished slavery in America, and I like the fact that the Republicans are the party of freedom, equality and opportunity, while the Democrats are the party of slavery and the party of Jim Crow. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016..._term=Firewire I like the fact that the Republicans finally passed the Civil Rights Acts of 64 and 68. (It would have been passed 10 years earlier but was blocked by the Democrats in both Congress and the Senate [Look it up]) I like the fact that I'm of Polish decent, and that I have the right to be offended if someone calls me a Polack, just like other races have the right to be offended if someone calls them a N__ger or a Sp__k, or a K_ke or a W_p. I like the fact that I can be offended by bigotry and I don't have to be quiet about being offended. I like the fact that in America a person can change their political views and go on to be President and do great things for our Country like Reagan did. I like the fact that I was able to serve 12 years in the US Navy, including 15 months doing river patrol in VietNam and was able to live to tell about it. I like the fact that it took a Republican president to get us out of that war. I like the fact that local government (Republican or Democrat), without the need for Federal rules and regs, can make my neighbor mow his lawn or paint his house or not raise pigs or not sell roses across the street from a flower shop. I like the fact that smaller, not larger government is what we really need in this Country. I like the fact that I can remember back into the 50's and 60's when that was a reality.

Look, we can play the "I like" or the "I don't like" game all night long, and at the end of it you are still faced with the same question. Who do you think will serve this great country of ours better as the President. DT or HRC. Both have some good points.. both have some bad. In the end, as I said in an earlier post, it's not which one runs our country, it's which one gets to appoint a judge(S) for life to the supreme court. Do we want a court that follows the Constitution of the US or do we want a court that "interprets" it to mean whatever they feel is correct, even if that interpretation is in direct opposition to what everyone else thinks it means. For me, the choice is clear. I want a court that follows the written rule of law. I do not want 9 unelected officials making up their own interpretation of the Constitution and forcing everyone else to live under their interpretation. For that reason, I'm voting for Trump, simply because I know that with Hillary I have NO chance whatsoever of her appointing a conservative Judge. At least with Trump I figure I have a 50-50 chance.

And frankly, if you actually listen to what Trump is saying on a wide range of subjects, he actually makes sense. And before ANYONE tries to say that Clinton has more experience, may I remind everyone that 8 years ago we elected a first year Senator that had less experience than Trump, to be president of the United States. Hows all the hope and change working out for you guys? We've had a steadily declining economy, more people on food stamps (Over 46 MILLION now, compared to under 30 million when Obama first took office in 2008), people having to work 2 and 3 jobs just to keep their homes, companies leaving the US right and left, higher unemployment and a new "accepted" growth rate of 1% when we used to think that 3-4% was low. We're printing money like it's water, our national debt is now 19 TRILLION dollars, (more than half of it under Obama). Obama has spent more money that all other presidents of the United States COMBINED!!!!... In short, we've had a total bust for the last 8 years and now we have a candidate that is promising more of the same. AND she's vowing to bring in more than 550,000 UNDOCUMENTED, UNVETTED Syrian refugees into our Country if she's elected. No thank you... not on my watch. Trump in 2016.

[Striper80]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

And I like the fact that The party of Abe Lincoln (Republicans) abolished slavery in America, and I like the fact that the Republicans are the party of freedom, equality and opportunity, while the Democrats are the party of slavery and the party of Jim Crow. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016..._term=Firewire I like the fact that the Republicans finally passed the Civil Rights Acts of 64 and 68. (It would have been passed 10 years earlier but was blocked by the Democrats in both Congress and the Senate [Look it up]) I like the fact that I'm of Polish decent, and that I have the right to be offended if someone calls me a Polack, just like other races have the right to be offended if someone calls them a N__ger or a Sp__k, or a K_ke or a W_p. I like the fact that I can be offended by bigotry and I don't have to be quiet about being offended. I like the fact that in America a person can change their political views and go on to be President and do great things for our Country like Reagan did. I like the fact that I was able to serve 12 years in the US Navy, including 15 months doing river patrol in VietNam and was able to live to tell about it. I like the fact that it took a Republican president to get us out of that war. I like the fact that local government (Republican or Democrat), without the need for Federal rules and regs, can make my neighbor mow his lawn or paint his house or not raise pigs or not sell roses across the street from a flower shop. I like the fact that smaller, not larger government is what we really need in this Country. I like the fact that I can remember back into the 50's and 60's when that was a reality.

Look, we can play the "I like" or the "I don't like" game all night long, and at the end of it you are still faced with the same question. Who do you think will serve this great country of ours better as the President. DT or HRC. Both have some good points.. both have some bad. In the end, as I said in an earlier post, it's not which one runs our country, it's which one gets to appoint a judge(S) for life to the supreme court. Do we want a court that follows the Constitution of the US or do we want a court that "interprets" it to mean whatever they feel is correct, even if that interpretation is in direct opposition to what everyone else thinks it means. For me, the choice is clear. I want a court that follows the written rule of law. I do not want 9 unelected officials making up their own interpretation of the Constitution and forcing everyone else to live under their interpretation. For that reason, I'm voting for Trump, simply because I know that with Hillary I have NO chance whatsoever of her appointing a conservative Judge. At least with Trump I figure I have a 50-50 chance.

And frankly, if you actually listen to what Trump is saying on a wide range of subjects, he actually makes sense. And before ANYONE tries to say that Clinton has more experience, may I remind everyone that 8 years ago we elected a first year Senator that had less experience than Trump, to be president of the United States. Hows all the hope and change working out for you guys? We've had a steadily declining economy, more people on food stamps (Over 46 MILLION now, compared to under 30 million when Obama first took office in 2008), people having to work 2 and 3 jobs just to keep their homes, companies leaving the US right and left, higher unemployment and a new "accepted" growth rate of 1% when we used to think that 3-4% was low. We're printing money like it's water, our national debt is now 19 TRILLION dollars, (more than half of it under Obama). Obama has spent more money that all other presidents of the United States COMBINED!!!!... In short, we've had a total bust for the last 8 years and now we have a candidate that is promising more of the same. AND she's vowing to bring in more than 550,000 UNDOCUMENTED, UNVETTED Syrian refugees into our Country if she's elected. No thank you... not on my watch. Trump in 2016.

[SkunkBoat]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

And I like the fact that The party of Abe Lincoln (Republicans) abolished slavery in America, and I like the fact that the Republicans are the party of freedom, equality and opportunity, while the Democrats are the party of slavery and the party of Jim Crow. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016..._term=Firewire I like the fact that the Republicans finally passed the Civil Rights Acts of 64 and 68. (It would have been passed 10 years earlier but was blocked by the Democrats in both Congress and the Senate [Look it up]) I like the fact that I'm of Polish decent, and that I have the right to be offended if someone calls me a Polack, just like other races have the right to be offended if someone calls them a N__ger or a Sp__k, or a K_ke or a W_p. I like the fact that I can be offended by bigotry and I don't have to be quiet about being offended. I like the fact that in America a person can change their political views and go on to be President and do great things for our Country like Reagan did. I like the fact that I was able to serve 12 years in the US Navy, including 15 months doing river patrol in VietNam and was able to live to tell about it. I like the fact that it took a Republican president to get us out of that war. I like the fact that local government (Republican or Democrat), without the need for Federal rules and regs, can make my neighbor mow his lawn or paint his house or not raise pigs or not sell roses across the street from a flower shop. I like the fact that smaller, not larger government is what we really need in this Country. I like the fact that I can remember back into the 50's and 60's when that was a reality.

Look, we can play the "I like" or the "I don't like" game all night long, and at the end of it you are still faced with the same question. Who do you think will serve this great country of ours better as the President. DT or HRC. Both have some good points.. both have some bad. In the end, as I said in an earlier post, it's not which one runs our country, it's which one gets to appoint a judge(S) for life to the supreme court. Do we want a court that follows the Constitution of the US or do we want a court that "interprets" it to mean whatever they feel is correct, even if that interpretation is in direct opposition to what everyone else thinks it means. For me, the choice is clear. I want a court that follows the written rule of law. I do not want 9 unelected officials making up their own interpretation of the Constitution and forcing everyone else to live under their interpretation. For that reason, I'm voting for Trump, simply because I know that with Hillary I have NO chance whatsoever of her appointing a conservative Judge. At least with Trump I figure I have a 50-50 chance.

And frankly, if you actually listen to what Trump is saying on a wide range of subjects, he actually makes sense. And before ANYONE tries to say that Clinton has more experience, may I remind everyone that 8 years ago we elected a first year Senator that had less experience than Trump, to be president of the United States. Hows all the hope and change working out for you guys? We've had a steadily declining economy, more people on food stamps (Over 46 MILLION now, compared to under 30 million when Obama first took office in 2008), people having to work 2 and 3 jobs just to keep their homes, companies leaving the US right and left, higher unemployment and a new "accepted" growth rate of 1% when we used to think that 3-4% was low. We're printing money like it's water, our national debt is now 19 TRILLION dollars, (more than half of it under Obama). Obama has spent more money that all other presidents of the United States COMBINED!!!!... In short, we've had a total bust for the last 8 years and now we have a candidate that is promising more of the same. AND she's vowing to bring in more than 550,000 UNDOCUMENTED, UNVETTED Syrian refugees into our Country if she's elected. No thank you... not on my watch. Trump in 2016.

OK OK, as one Polack to another, I like the response. But lets not pretend that the Republican and Democratic parties of today are the same as the days of slavery and Jim Crow. We both know that flipped after LBJ "betrayed" the south.
I'm not going to rebut anything else(and I could) because I'm too busy reading a fishing magazine and we all seem to have either already heard the other side and made up our mind or don't want to hear it. I only got sucked into this because someone basically said anyone like me is pissing on graves in Arlington.

Hey, I caught two keeper fluke on Monday at the Sea Girt reef...

[bradford]

Y'all can call each other polack, but get offended when others do huh?

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by SkunkBoat

OK OK, as one Polack to another, I like the response. But lets not pretend that the Republican and Democratic parties of today are the same as the days of slavery and Jim Crow. We both know that flipped after LBJ "betrayed" the south.
I'm not going to rebut anything else(and I could) because I'm too busy reading a fishing magazine and we all seem to have either already heard the other side and made up our mind or don't want to hear it. I only got sucked into this because someone basically said anyone like me is pissing on graves in Arlington.

Hey, I caught two keeper fluke on Monday at the Sea Girt reef...

Well, I disagree with you that they both flipped under LBJ. What did happen is that since LBJ the Democrat party has done a much better job of branding itself as the party of minorities (Due in large part to an overwhelmingly liberal media) But if you look at the actual record during that period the Republican party has still passed much more legislation aimed at bringing equality to minorities than the Democrats.

As for LBJ, I've often thought that LBJ betrayed much more than the south. In fact, Bebe Reboso (LBJ's lifelong friend) swore in his book, published just before his death, that LBJ masterminded Kennedy's assassination. (It's a well known fact that they hated each other and Kennedy was going to get a different running mate for his second term. If that had happened LBJ would have been through politically, and he couldn't allow that.). But I digress. I'm glad that you got the thought(s) behind my response. There's so much at stake in this election that I cannot, in all honesty, ever recall an election with more potential to fundamentally destroy our Country than this one. And no, I'm not being dramatic. Truthfully, if the Democrats had run some other person rather than HRC (or Sanders) I might have been tempted to vote that way instead of Trump. BUT the chance of liberal SCOTUS judges forever destroying the Constitution by shredding accepted law and interpreting it to mean something else is simply a chance I am not willing to take. The danger is just too great.

And I was hoping to go out this weekend and get a few flatties, or at the very least have some fun in the river with Striper shorts, but it's looking more and more like Hermine is going to wipe that idea off the list. I'm jealous of your 2 keepers. Well done.