1986 Converted to Center console

[captaingene]

The pictures were upright on my cell ...Don't know why they posted like that.

I decided to swap outboards.I am going to remove the 2013 Mercury 150 from the V 20 and install a 2006 suzuki 150 from my new ised boat.. Then lower price.o the f wellcraft ..From what i have read online the Mercury give you a true 150 plus Hp since its has more displacement.then other 150 plus weights 30 lbs less. The mercury offers more torque since the lower unit gearing is higher....I can use this lower torque on my doqneaster type hull....

What do you guys feel is fair asking price for my wellcraft v 20 with suzuki installed.

Thanks

[bradford]

Lot of factors coming in to play here. This is just my two cents, so defantly not carved in stone.

--Older massed produced hull that can be had for free or cheap if you look.
--Set up as a commercial crab boat, turns off all but a very few niche buyers. Yet the puller is not included, adding additional expense to someone who might be interested in it for that purpose.
--Expensive used outboard engine that has seen commercial use. A good engine, but still not new, will turn off some buyers who have the cash for a BRAND new engine, but still expensive for those just getting into boats or moving up from something smaller.
--Rugged no frills set up is cool for commercial work or fishing, but zero creature comforts for those who have to get the purchase approved by their old lady.
--Raised deck is good for it's intended use as a crab boat, but not good for some one bottom fishing 40-50 miles off the east coast in a swell.
--No trailer included. Me and a couple people I can name on one hand have an extra trailer or two laying around capable of hauling a boat that size. Everyone else gets to buy a new trailer, $$$. Or shop around the depths of craigslist looking for one that will fit a V-20 hull, is in decent enough condition, and isn't too expensive because the boat itself is kinda high.
--Boat is in extreme SW Florida. A decent haul for everyone I'd say north of Orlando area, which is a long haul from just about everywhere else. A lot of people in that area already have a boat or two and so far this one doesn't have anything that makes it a screaming deal that they are willing to buy it.

Again, not knocking you or the boat, just my 2 cents from a guy that sells a lot of boats and motors, owns or has owned 6 different variants of a V-20, cruises craigslist 1-2 times a day, and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express once.

I like the boat and think you should keep her and run the heck out of her and let her earn her keep. Sell her turn key with the puller and a trailer in a few years to someone who wants to get into the crab business.

[captaingene]

You do have some valid points however used as very light commercal crab boat only twice per month ...
.I have decided to swap motors and place my suzuki 150 4 stroke on the wellcraft.I recently purchased a 2002 dual axle trailer for the v 20...Once i get done with this boat i will then sell for less and someone will get solid boat turn key for a very fair price.....

[Destroyer]

Gene, I think you're missing the point of everyone else's posts. You keep going back to what you're going to do, or how much you have in her, or this or that. But you're not listening to what people are saying. You're hearing them, but you're not listening. Your boat is worth a lot less than you think it is. There is a saying that something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, and unless you find someone that is new to boating and doesn't know squat or is very rich and doesn't give a damn about money, you are not going to sell your boat for anywhere near what you are asking. Fact I don't mean to disparage you or your boat, but in my humble opinion, you're being unrealistic in your asking price. Fact is, even with the 150 zuke on it and with a tandem trailer in good shape I'm betting that boat will not sell for more than $7000, and probably closer to $4500 - 5500. I hope you get your asking price. As they say, there's one born every minute. But I'm sorry, I just don't want you to get your hopes up unrealistically.

As an example, Last year I missed a 1996 V21 with a sweet running, ultra quiet 200 Yammy engine on it, with full enclosure, bolsters, trim tabs and a tandem trailer. I thought the asking price of $7200 was too high, and a day later when I went back to buy it, it was gone... It sold for $6800. That boat was in far, far better shape than yours is, and we're talking about the Eastern Seaboard of New Jersey, where things cost much more than the rest of the country.

What I and everyone else is trying to tell you is your price is unrealistically too high and your boat will not sell. I'm sorry, but that's the bottom line.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Offshore boats just are not bringing good money down here anymore either. Unless it is a 25 footer or bigger, there isn't a big market. It's a tough sell to get somebody to buy a nearly 30 year old mass produced hull like the V-20(even if it has been redone) for muhc money even with newer power. Skiffs are bringing good money down here now, but with all of the fishing regs offshore type boats have fizzled down in recent years. I saw the writing on the wall and sold my offshoree boat several years back, and took a BEATING on it for reasons just like destroyer spoke of. It is only worth what somebody is willing to pay, and unless you're willing to sit on it for months waiting on just teh right buyer, you're going to have to come down on your price. Otherwise be prepared to spiffy her up and make her look like a new contender or something to get a buyer willing to spend that kind of money on it.

[phatdaddy]

a very wise man(my dad) told me, "Just because you flush a hundred bill down a toilet, that don't mean you have a hundred dollar toilet."

[cterrebonne]

I'll give my opinion.

That hull had a unique layout and it has the original stringers and transom.
So, hull value is not going to be a whole lot 2000-3000 maybe
the trailer unless it's brand new is going to be $1500 tops.

So now best case scenario sans power is $4000-4500

Just add the NADA value of each engine and there's your starting price.

With my V20, I am redoing all the stringers, transom, etc. Adding all new fittings, pumps, electronics, new paint, t top and I am going to rebuild the old 200 carbed Johnson I bought and put it on there. When it's all said and done, that boat will be 100x's better than when it left wellcraft and won't rot again due to the core's I am using. But, being realistic, if I can get 15k for the boat I would be ecstatic.

[randlemanboater]

Originally Posted by captaingene

The pictures were upright on my cell ...Don't know why they posted like that.

I decided to swap outboards.I am going to remove the 2013 Mercury 150 from the V 20 and install a 2006 suzuki 150 from my new ised boat.. Then lower price.o the f wellcraft ..From what i have read online the Mercury give you a true 150 plus Hp since its has more displacement.then other 150 plus weights 30 lbs less. The mercury offers more torque since the lower unit gearing is higher....I can use this lower torque on my doqneaster type hull....

What do you guys feel is fair asking price for my wellcraft v 20 with suzuki installed.

Thanks

I really like your new boat. I think you are on the right track keeping the new Merc...although I am rather partial to Suzuki 4 strokes.

NADA (using my zip code, don't know yours) says your boats average retail price is $2660 (thats for the F20, there is no listing for a V20 converted to a F20) and the average retail on the Suzuki motor is $5225, add in your trailer around $1000 you are up to $8885 average retail.

We all know you rarely get average retail...but don't sell yourself short either.

BTW...the NADA average retail on your Merc is $10425, so you had a very fair price to start with IMO...but I am not in the market for a boat and its people who are in the market who's opinions count.

[captaingene]

Randleman you right on target with your reply

Capt g

[captaingene]

Update
Just waiting for my mechanic to finish the swapping of engines.

The boat is a 1989 not 1986 solid deck n transom.No soft spots anywhere.Engine is a 2007 Suzuki 150 hp 4 stroke with stainless prop.Bennett trim tabs.Fusion AmFm radio.VHF The trailer is a 2002 aluminum duel axle just replaced one axle n springs cost $447.00
I have title on hand for both boat n trailer.
Only thing this boat can use is hull paint.new wellcraft decals and would look like new..This is not a project boat but turn key


Asking S7600 well below NADA or best reasonible cash offer.If interested please to not hesitate to ask questions It's best to email me at [email protected]al with a days notice.

Tight lines

Originally Posted by randlemanboater

I really like your new boat. I think you are on the right track keeping the new Merc...although I am rather partial to Suzuki 4 strokes.

NADA (using my zip code, don't know yours) says your boats average retail price is $2660 (thats for the F20, there is no listing for a V20 converted to a F20) and the average retail on the Suzuki motor is $5225, add in your trailer around $1000 you are up to $8885 average retail.

We all know you rarely get average retail...but don't sell yourself short either.

BTW...the NADA average retail on your Merc is $10425, so you had a very fair price to start with IMO...but I am not in the market for a boat and its people who are in the market who's opinions count.