A well written piece

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by yodaddy

Socialism has given us the gimme mentality that will destroy us, and emboldened politicians to keep doing more of the same. The politicians keep on giving away our money to buy voting blocks, but that train is headed for a major wreck. Welfare cost us $1 TRILLION this year, with 40% of that being borrowed money. How long can it continue?

Speaking of gimme mentalities...have ya noticed how many US corporations making mega bucks, not only don't pay a dime in taxes, but also receive government subsidies...the trillion dollars you mention is a drop in the bucket compared to the corporate welfare you don't hear so much about....then we can talk about the 2 BILLION dollars A WEEK spent supplying the troops in Afgahnistan that goes to Haliburton, GE and the like who also pay no taxes and are not subsidized, but wholly supported by our tax dollars...cut them off and cut the trillion you mention...and see who HOLLERS the loudest...man if we're gonna complain about welfare, let's talk about the one that's REALLY costing us money...

[yodaddy]

Originally Posted by reelapeelin

Speaking of gimme mentalities...have ya noticed how many US corporations making mega bucks, not only don't pay a dime in taxes, but also receive government subsidies...the trillion dollars you mention is a drop in the bucket compared to the corporate welfare you don't hear so much about....then we can talk about the 2 BILLION dollars A WEEK spent supplying the troops in Afgahnistan that goes to Haliburton, GE and the like who also pay no taxes and are not subsidized, but wholly supported by our tax dollars...cut them off and cut the trillion you mention...and see who HOLLERS the loudest...man if we're gonna complain about welfare, let's talk about the one that's REALLY costing us money...

Big corporations hire people, build things, and create wealth. You get less of anything you tax, so of course, let's tax corporations into the ground. The only major corporations I hear of that aren't paying taxes are GE and Apple, both of which are in bed with the Obama regime.

We shouldn't be in Afghanistan. The majority of the 9-11 terrorists were Saudi nationals, so we retaliated against Afghanistan. Go figure.

[spareparts]

that book is a hard read, but about two thirds of the way thru, it will hit you, " so that's what they are trying to do"

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by yodaddy

Big corporations hire people, build things, and create wealth. You get less of anything you tax, so of course, let's tax corporations into the ground. The only major corporations I hear of that aren't paying taxes are GE and Apple, both of which are in bed with the Obama regime.

We shouldn't be in Afghanistan. The majority of the 9-11 terrorists were Saudi nationals, so we retaliated against Afghanistan. Go figure.

You took it to the extreme to diminish its credibility...I didn't say nor would I support, "Taxing them into the ground"...there is a point of balance that they can afford and remain viable and still contribute beyond loading the tax burden on the employees...if yer OK w/paying more taxes so corporations can pay none then that's your call...

Afghanistan is where our enemies retreated to so they could have quick access to the Pakistani border...which is where we got Bin Laden...he didn't hide in Saudi Arabia...that said, after 10+ years there, it's time to get out and stop the madness of staying there in order to feed our tax dollars through Haliburton and the rest of the Military Industrial Complex so their shareholders can prosper...

And BTW...the Trillion dollar figure mentioned earlier in welfare is an exaggerated number...what ever it is, I agree w/you it's too much and needs to be trimmed back...and most of all, having babies to provide a check has got to be stopped..that policy is pure madness...and it's obvious that neither party has the cajones to stop it...

[yodaddy]

Originally Posted by reelapeelin

You took it to the extreme to diminish its credibility...I didn't say nor would I support, "Taxing them into the ground"...there is a point of balance that they can afford and remain viable and still contribute beyond loading the tax burden on the employees...if yer OK w/paying more taxes so corporations can pay none then that's your call...

I was just venting at the socialist mindset to "get the rich, and soak the evil corporations". Corporate income is double taxed, once as a corp, then again as dividends. Drop both of those taxes and business would come back to the US in droves. More jobs = higher income tax revenue (evil in and of itself), and our tax rates should go down.

Originally Posted by reelapeelin

Afghanistan is where our enemies retreated to so they could have quick access to the Pakistani border...which is where we got Bin Laden...he didn't hide in Saudi Arabia.

Beg to differ. AQ and the 9-11 attackers were funded by OBL and other Saudi nationals, some with connections to the Royal Family - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...da.htmlprinces. The Saudis **** on us and we turn a blind eye because of the oil they're sitting on. The Saudis through AQ attacked us on 9-11, and if we really wanted to deal with AQ we'd hold Saudi Arabia accountable.

Originally Posted by reelapeelin

And BTW...the Trillion dollar figure mentioned earlier in welfare is an exaggerated number...what ever it is, I agree w/you it's too much and needs to be trimmed back...and most of all, having babies to provide a check has got to be stopped..that policy is pure madness...and it's obvious that neither party has the cajones to stop it...

The trillion dollar number is accurate - http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/18/re...1-03-trillion/ . Add the amount from the 2011 Congressional Research Service report for direct Federal spending ($745.84 billion) with the
$282.7 billion spent by states on Federal welfare programs, and you get 1.03 trillion. Numbers for 2012 will be much higher. True that no one has the stones to stop it.

Socialism is evil, and will be the undoing of this once great nation.

[RidgeRunner]

1.2 Trillon dollar number is accurate.
No disputing that big Corporations try to buy the vote.
Problem is the left want it all Reel.

True blue bloods at the DNC - Gotta laugh at these Obama supporters they were so punked. Sad thing is they believe in what they said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07fTsF5BiSM

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by RidgeRunner

1.2 Trillon dollar number is accurate.
No disputing that big Corporations try to buy the vote.
Problem is the left want it all Reel.

True blue bloods at the DNC - Gotta laugh at these Obama supporters they were so punked. Sad thing is they believe in what they said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07fTsF5BiSM

LOL..I never said there weren't ignorant morons on both sides of the aisle...as a staunch Independent w/allegiance to neither party, your You Tube is just what sickens me most about party joiners...they'll stand there and tell you my party right or wrong all day w/out having a clue what they're talking about...and vote that way to boot...Corporate Profits??...everybody knows they are a commie plot to take over the world...I got my tin foil helmet on!...