New Johnson...couple of questions

[macojoe]

IMO, get rid of the VRO or don't lost that number for the guy who bought the yamaha, you will need it!!

[nipper]

I had a 1990 90 h.p. Evinrude and the choke was the ignition (i.e. key). You would push it in to choke. I could generally hear the choke click when I would do so. Sometimes I would have to push the key in a couple times after it fired to keep it running when it was cold outside.

[csvencer]

So I have a new set of controls on order so I can see if the warning horns work, right now they are dead but the horn was cut so I don't know if it's even good. So that will eliminate the horn and choke from being an issue at that end. Now I will take a better look at the motor, should I hear the choke solenoid when I hit it on the controls or it is pretty quiet? I will give the red choke knob a shot, tried it a little the other day but didn't get it to run, will try again to see what happens.

Good thinking on the clear oil line, will give that a try, just got to find a can to run some premix out of.

Lastly, if the choke solenoid is dead, any idea what I am looking at for a replacement cost? It shouldn't be much of a task, just wondering how much cash it's gonna set me back.

Thanks for the hhelp, I will keep you posted as I work this out.

-Svence

[nymack66]

"Lastly, if the choke solenoid is dead, any idea what I am looking at for a replacement cost? It shouldn't be much of a task, just wondering how much cash it's gonna set me back"

Just a FYI you can and will know if its working simple remove the line connected to the block have someone push the ignition key in to activate the choke and you will see fuel squirting out of it, also you will hear it click.
Remember before you go replacing it verify its working and not clog or no power..Test ..Test :)
Here is a link to ebay if you are lucky you can pickup a use one for under 30 ?
OMC sells a rebuild kit also might be cheaper.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Johns...ssoriesQ5fGear

[csvencer]

Had a chance to do a little more digging today...new controls are in, nice BRP new ones :) Hooked everything up and still couldn't get a the choke to work. Tore it all down, found it it was getting 12V when I pushed the key in, but nothing was pumping. So it came off and I took it apart, completely gummed up with crap. Thing kinda feel apart in my hands, so I just ordered a new one, bit the bullet and went all new (couldn't find any direct replacements on ebay anyway).

Another Q for you guys, with the new controls hooked up I am still not getting the "beep" when I turn the key on. Think it has to do with not having the system check system attached yet, thoughts? I traced the two wires to the horn and one of them runs to the 8 pin duesch (?) connector that will go into the system check/Tach, so I am guessing that is the brains behind the whole operation. Am I completely off base?

Thanks again, will keep you posted with the results as parts come in.

-Svence

[nymack66]

Here is a wiring diagram I am NOT absolute sure if this is applicable to your year. Please verify

[csvencer]

Mack,
Thanks but that is for the big red plug, I have the post 96 setup with all the fancy square and triangle connectors. Some of the colors match up but I will have to check it out more tomorrow. The system check tach will be here Wednesday so I will definitely know when it gets here. I am hoping to get the primer in before this weekend so I can see if that was the only issue with it not cold starting, then off to test the VRO setup and see how the cooling is doing. Hope to be OTW for Memorial Day...got my fingers crossed!

-Svence

[Destroyer]

Csvencer, this has nothing to do with your choke problem, but does address some other comments in this thread. I came across this article a while back. While I know (and somewhat agree) with what various people have said in the past about VRO (Variable Ratio Oiling) systems, it does seem to make a good case in their defense. In all cases it's well worth the read, just for the information.

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/VRO.html