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I fear that to many people have fallen for his eloquence and demeanor. I would hate to think he gets to be POTUS simply for being a good salesman.

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Willy were you not scared with Bush and his quest to take away our rights? We need a third party that would be a blend of the two. Billy Mac
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Willy were you not scared with Bush and his quest to take away our rights? We need a third party that would be a blend of the two. Billy Mac
I assume you are talking about wire tapping? I have absolutley no problem with wire tapping someone that might have nothing but destruction in mind for the great people of this country. I have no fear, and nothing to hide since I have no ambitions of wide spread terror and destruction. I challenge anyone here to find any article explaining in detail what "changes" the Obamanation has planned, and the details to how he plans to inact and pay for said changes. If you slow down, rewind the DVR and really LISTEN to what he' s NOT saying, you will learn he really is saying nothing! I really would prefer not to vote for Mccain, my guy was Mike Huckabee, but he is a man of his convictions. As far as that article about Mccain voting with Bush 100% of the time, it actually says he voted with Bush for the last 8 months. "100% of the time in 2008" So 8 months over the last 8 years really isn't anything. With whom has Obama voted with???? Hardly anyone, he's spent almost half of his political career running for POTUS. And when he does vote, he votes with a congress that has done the least and has the lowest approval rating ....EVER! So if your own representatives are not doing the job you want them too, then why would a president born of them do anything better???? All I ask is for everyone to open your ears, and really HEAR what they are saying. Don't just listen to them, HEAR what they are saying. If you are true to yourself and can actually hear past what the candidates are wanting you to listen to, then you will come to understand what mac and lester have been saying so elloquintly. Vote for substance not status, someone that stays true to principles and has had nothing to hide.

And I agree about the third party. I'm a Libretarian registered as a Republican. I believe in self responsibilty and a federal government ment to protect me from foreign agressors, not inable those who take from others. As I've said before, and I'm sure you guys get tired of hearing this, but when our government is where it's at now, you can see why we went to war with Britain. Too much government taking from the masses for redistrubution to others. We aren't represented any longer by these people. I'll stop there.
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I agree with those who have applauded the debate going on herein, as long as it remains civil. Willy, you make good points, and you are an informed and eloquent gentleman. Please refrain from comments like "scum of the earth" during your discourse. Your points would be much more effective and perhaps you could persuade folks to vote for your candidate without such rhetoric.
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Did any of you Obama bashers watch the convention coverage last night?
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I'll tell you what fellas, I'm too young now, but in 6 years I will put my hat in for the presidential race. I've never been arrested, or even gotten a speeding ticket. Never tried drugs. Always paid my taxes, worked all my life and came from a self made family. My father dropped out of high school and grew up on a small farm in Wallace, NC. He has owned his own copier machine sales and service business since 1985. He's not rich, I'm not rich, but I'm a very conservative person. I know right from wrong, and I can bring "change" to Washington. I will push for term limits for the house and senate, and cut the payroll in half for all federal representatives. I will also scrap the unfair health care system in place for our representatives and make them go into a health care system like everyone else in this country.(Paying thier own) If you are on welfare, you will only draw money for a maximum of two years. If you can't get a job after two years there is something wrong with you. The IRS will be a thing of the past. The fairtax will implemented right away. I want everyone in this country to be able see where every dime is going, and who is spending it. With the fairtax, you only pay taxes on what you spend. If you make below $25,000 a year, then you pay $0 in taxes in the form of a prebate each month.

As far as foreign afairs go, I'm taking a no holds barred approach. If any country on this planet has a problem with the way we do business, then you lose our support, money, and protection. If you can do better, then by all means go right ahead and show me, and then maybe we'll talk. If you mess with one of our allies, then you will get the full weight of pressure from this great country. Wether it's from absolute sanctions or militarially, you will know when you do something wrong.

Capital punishment will be reinacted immediatley! If you commit any hainous crime, then you go to death row, not for 20 years, but untill the people in front of you are done. All federal prisons will be included in this too. I will follow Joe Arpairo of Arizona when it comes to prisons.

The real power of this country will go back to the states. All money collected for any reason will only be spent on that particular project, ie social security. If you don't want to pay into it, then don't expect to draw from it. You're all adults and can fend for yourselves, better than the government can fend for you finacially at least. Medical care laws will be relaxed somewhat to allow clinics to go into places such as Walmart and Costco, etc. to make minor medical care far more affordable. Frevaless(sp?) lawsuits will be dealt with as such; if you sue someone for money, and you lose, then you incure all of their legal costs. This will make you think twice about sueing over spilled coffee that was your fault to begin with.

These are just some of my points of action for this country. Take it or leave it, I know what is right and what is wrong. I also know how NOT to spend money, especially money that is not my own. A politician should do the same. Spend tax money as if it is coming out of your own pocket. Don't be stupid. Commonn sense will rise again some day!!
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You got my vote!
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