a little history

[tsubaki]

And the bad part is, people like me have learned this in high school and choose to keep perpetuating this extortion, rationalizing that it is only a little bit, only a little more, just a little more often and with fewer allowed deductions.
When this thing blows up, the Constitution will not be able to save US.
As always our children and children's-children, will have to deal with our past and lack of present resolve.

[eight]

How do you stop "perpetuating this extortion". I'd forfeit all I've paid if I could get out of it. I'd also like to get the half my employer pays. I try not to think of how many extra millions I'd have at retirement if I could just invest my and my employer's payments into low risk investments. Find a retirement investment calculator and put your investment at 15.3% and the return at something reasonable like 7%. Even in today's economy I'm getting nearly 10% on most of my investments. See what 10% would get you.

[C YENSEN]

seen that one bofore willy, kinda makes you sick to your stomach.....

[nipper]

Hey Eight, you have to share with us just where you are getting 10% return on your investments.

[cterrebonne]

Originally Posted by nipper

Hey Eight, you have to share with us just where you are getting 10% return on your investments.

those funds are all over the place, thats why it pays to get a good financial planner.

[Mac_Attack]

One question? Why didn't a Republican president with a republican controlled congress change this? Billy Mac

[cterrebonne]

Originally Posted by Mac_Attack

One question? Why didn't a Republican president with a republican controlled congress change this? Billy Mac

because most of the republicans aren't conservatives.

i found this thought it to be interesting. spearheaded by mr obama.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c109ol8eal::

odd that he is anti-war, when we introduced this bill on fighting terror in the congo. to me, it seems like the same old tactics john kerry was using in '04. tell everybody what they want to hear and make sure no one notices that your "speaking out both sides of your mouth."

the main reason why they dont abolish mandatory contributions to social security. elected officials hand out money to those who wish to obtain this money via medicare, social security benefits, ESL courses in shcool, free health care, etc, as a means of bribery to their pool of voters hoping to receive their vote.

to put it plain and simple without sugar coating it. on an after tax basis. if we put each a ten dollars in a bucket and a year later i get 4 dollars you get 4 dollars and the other 2 dollars are given away to someone who never put it, how rationally speaking is that fair?