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Like schools said grind the gell coat off to see what your dealing with.dont grind to deep into the glass,just feather the grinder to get rid of the gellcoat and then asess . I have numerous spots on my bottom that the previous owner repaired that im grinding all down and repairing over just to give me a sense of knowing the repair was done correctly.
send us some more pics of the damaged area before and after you grind it down. any soft spots on the floor? Gellcoat cracks in the cockpit or on the bottom that could give us the assumption that the stringers are flexing due to rot? Not trying to be negative but my transom seem pretty solid but when i cut into her she was SHOT!!! So do a couple test pilot holes with a small drill bit to see what consistency the material is being drilled out is, meaning long dry wood shavings are a good sign and "dirt" or wet material means theres rot.remove some screws and see if any water weeps out of the holes. 
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11-16-2012, 02:45 PM
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Thanks ill give that a try this weekend and take some pics. I dont have any structural cracks on the deck, gunwales, or bow area and no soft spots in the floor. As I had mentioned I do have two structural cracks around the bottom of the cuddy door but thats all i know of. When you say to drill are you talking into the transom or stringers or both?
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11-16-2012, 07:53 PM
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Do some drill tests in the transom. Drill small holes they don't have to big holes. You fill them with thickened resin after your probe test. I've walked boats in the past flat footed with flip flops and the sole felt fine but then ive kicked my flops off and walked on my heals and found some soft spots.
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11-18-2012, 12:27 PM
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PLEASE do not buy an ETEC!!!! I have a few buddies with them and they are in the shop all the time for various things. Hell you cant even clean the fuel injectors on em!!!!!
I have a Yamaha 4-stroke and a dealer that does scratch and dents if you want his info. I got a brand new 07 150hp yammy 4-stroke with full warranty shipped to my door for 9k all because the cowling had some scratches on it. Your fuel econ will go up, they are easy to work on and rarely break down. Good luck with your project!!!
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- The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but obtainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. Lucky Jack - .......The Surprise is not old; no one would call her old. She has a bluff bow, lovely lines. She's a fine seaboat: weatherly, stiff and fast, very fast, if she's well handled. No, she's not old; she's in her prime. 85' Wellcraft 20 Fisherman "Guale Girl" 1979 Alumnacraft 14 - STILL got holes in it 2006 WS Tarpon160f - "Mudd Butt"
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11-18-2012, 02:42 PM
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Brett, I have to agree with Ssirefish. I was not going to say anything. But a very good friend of mine just repowered his Simmons Seaskiff with a 60. He has owned it for eight months and it spent five in the shop. Now how does Evinrude keep you on the water longer? His would start missing and sometimes die completely. Towed in twice. Once was the first trip out. Yes the fuel efficiency is outstanding. But they are still working bugs out. The last shop replaced the ECM and if that did not work he would be getting anotger motor. I think they finally got it fixed.
If you can afford it go with an Optimax. They seem to have gotten their bugs worked out and hardly no complaints.
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11-18-2012, 04:26 PM
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i love the steplift but if your willing to spend you can but a nice v that will be turn key ready for alot less, your in a tough spot, i love my 78 and am willing to do just about anything to keep her, im going to post my next problem that i cant figure out good luck
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11-18-2012, 05:50 PM
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Some have had great luck with ETec but there are others that have had horror stories!! There are a few here that have them. and they are working alright but some have had problems right out of the gate!
I have heard most problems are from Tec's that don't have there crap together and set them up wrong, this cause the power heads to blow, and a host of other issues. But once they get it right the motors have been great! Its great that they get them straight and that Evinrude stands behind them, but I for one would rather have a motor that runs and runs then is always at the shop! I have had Johnson, Evinrude, Yamaha 2 stroke and 4 stroke, and Mercury. I have to say I love my Yamaha's!! bought a 225 4 stroke but it was way to heavy for my boat, so I traded a friend for his 2 stroke HDPI 200, and it is a awesome motor!! I like it better then the 4 stroke and it is just as good on gas as the 4 stroke! My 2nd best motor has been Mercury, I had a 90 3 cyl and then a 6 cyl 2.4 175, that 175 was great on gas and pushed my heavy boat great!!
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11-18-2012, 06:08 PM
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I'd bet that you can get a REALLY nice boat in the 21-23 ft range for $20K.
Or you will have a really nice boat if you fix yours and put on new power. Tough choice, but if you have that to spend, I'd go with another boat.
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11-19-2012, 09:16 AM
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Thank you all for the replys. I didnt have a chance to work on the boat this weekend but did take some more pics. I will post either later tonight or tomorrow morning. Regarding outboard type, I will consider what everyone said, however the bottom line is every outboard out there has some history of failure. Whether you talk to people or search online, literally every manufacturer has had issues. My neighborhood is a huge boating community and everyone there also has their opinion on what type of outboard I should get. Someone has told me to stay away from every type of outboard including mercurys, yamahas, etecs, optimaxes etc. I would like a four stroke but also know that they are quite heavy outboards for a V. That being said, one outboard I might check out is the new mercury 4 cylinder 4-stroke. Its around 450 lbs and has rave reviews so far. Ill update everyone soon. Thanks again.
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11-19-2012, 04:38 PM
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Honestly other than a clogged filter and injectors I havent heard ONE serious problem with the F150's. There are a lot of them here and you just dont see them goin into service very much. After 400hrs all Ive done is changed one filter and cleaned the injectors, lube and oil/foot lube changes. General maintenance stuff...... My Yamaha 4-stroke F150 gets UNREAL gas mileage on my F20 and the added weight WITH the bracket I have lowered the tail end about an inch. At 466lbs I would assume that on a V with the forward cuddy it wouldnt even drop that much......No a bigger engine I have no idea????
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- The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but obtainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. Lucky Jack - .......The Surprise is not old; no one would call her old. She has a bluff bow, lovely lines. She's a fine seaboat: weatherly, stiff and fast, very fast, if she's well handled. No, she's not old; she's in her prime. 85' Wellcraft 20 Fisherman "Guale Girl" 1979 Alumnacraft 14 - STILL got holes in it 2006 WS Tarpon160f - "Mudd Butt"
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