I/O or OB

[macojoe]

with a muff

:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

[wpearch]

Up here in the north conuntry we call them a muff they look like ear muffs

[bcurling]

Yes, it is a closed system. That was one thing that I relly looked for. I have a closed system on my Volvo 140 and it is absolutley worth ever dime. There was a drain plug in the exchanger (V 20) to get rid of the raw water. I removed this plug and installed a peacock valve off of an airplane engine. Works great.

[cfelton]

Hey Bcurling, Ive gotta 77 v20 cutty with a 170 (470) I/O I just rebuilt. Ive been extremely satisified with it so far. With the cost of gas climbing I wouldnt think of replacing it with anything else. Hang on to what you have , they are very easy to fix. If ya have any trouble we all will try ta help!

[bcurling]

Thanks guys for the impute and thoughts. Now, were are those fish?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by bcurling

Thanks guys for the impute and thoughts. *Now, were are those fish?

8) ;)

[RobsTV]

The V20 is the 6th boat I've owned.
First 4 had outboards, all were old, and all had various issues at times.

Always wanted an I/O, since it appeared that it was close to a "car" motor, and thought that means easier to work on.

5th boat was a 23' Formula with a GM305 V8, OMC I/O.

A year later that pile was sold, and swore to never ever will own an I/O again. Even though I am a retired certified automobile master mechanic, the I/O is actually much harder to service than an outboard. Plus parts prices are unreal. For the price of an intermidiate housing, outdrive, lower unit, (motor NOT included), you can get an entire outboard ready to run and just bolt it on.

6th boat is the V20 with outboard, and life is great again.

[Monterey10]

I agree with the above. The OB is superior in all ways. A recent test of identical Trophy fishing boats, one with an I/O, the other with a O/B, showed the O/B was superior in all ways, hole shot, fuel efficiency, top speed etc etc.

That said, in California, the 2008 and newer O/Bs will need to be smogged every two years or the engine switches to "trouble mode". The local dealers are licking their chops at having required service. My local Merc dealer averages $500 to $600 to service an engine. I can see why, he had to buy a $30,000 computer and cables to plug into the newer engines. Once the engine is plugged in, the computer diagnoses any problems. Then, the computer sends the report to the State, verifying smog is completed.

I like the concept, but for a small time operator, I'll stick with my funky old I/Os. I can change bellows, grease ujoints, time a points distributor, rebuild the carb, drain the block and manifolds in the spring. None of this is hard to do, none of this cost $600.

[garagenc]

Originally Posted by wpearch

The main reason I wanted an outboard is I can fish early and late in the season and you don't have to worry about frezzing up a motor and to have more fishing room in the back of the boat

I'm looking into hooking up a system like you would buy from a auto parts store to flush your radiator. I have a I/O and that's my only thing but I like mine.

[cterrebonne]

Originally Posted by Monterey10

I agree with the above. The OB is superior in all ways. A recent test of identical Trophy fishing boats, one with an I/O, the other with a O/B, showed the O/B was superior in all ways, hole shot, fuel efficiency, top speed etc etc.

That said, in California, the 2008 and newer O/Bs will need to be smogged every two years or the engine switches to "trouble mode". The local dealers are licking their chops at having required service. My local Merc dealer averages $500 to $600 to service an engine. I can see why, he had to buy a $30,000 computer and cables to plug into the newer engines. Once the engine is plugged in, the computer diagnoses any problems. Then, the computer sends the report to the State, verifying smog is completed.

I like the concept, but for a small time operator, I'll stick with my funky old I/Os. I can change bellows, grease ujoints, time a points distributor, rebuild the carb, drain the block and manifolds in the spring. None of this is hard to do, none of this cost $600.

a 30,000 computer? $500-$600 what is the labor rate? dude someone is getting the shaft and thats a fact.i know things are expensive and ridiculous in cali but unless that computer is govt issued and its a standard toughbook with merc software its not 30,000. that is very interesting.