Floor Drain Elbow Broke (@#$%^&)

randlemanboater · #1 05-30-2007, 10:24 AM

My floor drains were not draining well with the check valves I had put in so I was going to try another configuration with them to see if they would work better. *

When I took the starboard hose loose from the boat side, the elbow in the floor, broke.

I know people have had this happen before, what did you do?

reelapeelin · #2 05-30-2007, 10:32 AM

1st thing I'd do is be glad it didn't happen at sea from vibration, etc...then I'd check the other side to see if it's about to happen there...then I'd replace both sides w/ larger drains... ;) ...

Mulv80 · #3 05-30-2007, 11:00 AM

Hammer will be along shortly, he made this repair.

Gator_Bait · #4 05-30-2007, 02:22 PM

I could tell mine were brittle and breaking so I took them out and spent some time considering what to do. One option is to order the 90 degree ones that Hammer used (from TH I think). I preferred stainless but they are all too long but I finally found some short model from Attwood that are only 2 1/2" long top to bottom (about the same as from the top of the old one to the bottom of the elbow), so with the hose bent tight, it's slightly longer but seems to drain well.

No check valves so water still pops up when rocking and the thru hull dips below for a sec but it goes back out. The plus is that these are stainless, the drawback is that the tops are more mushroomed than the OEM ones, so not every drop goes down, a tiny amount of water will sit around the drain (maybe a 1-2 tablespoons), since it's higher than the floor.

Here is a link, this is the only place I could find short barbed SS ones and if you click on the images you can see the dimensions etc. One other thought was to hack off the barb then the threads are only 1" long or so, and just tread this into the elbow you took out (the good part). That may work, but wanting to get on the water this past weekend I didn't want to experiment only to find the threads didn't match or something. In fact you should try this and let me know if it works ;D ;D

http://www.firstchoicemarine.com/p-1...1-id-hose.aspx

Good luck!

Scott

;D

Blue_Runner · #5 05-30-2007, 02:34 PM

Let me know what you go with RB - I need to replace mine too. They are the plastic grey ones just like in your pic.

msbhammer · #6 05-30-2007, 02:59 PM

Randleman. mine both broke as well and I could not find a replacement part at all and I tried everywhere.
I finally found a boat building suplier. They state on the website that they only sell to boat companies, but when I called I spoke to a women and she hooked me up. SInce that time, two more members picked up the same type of ball floor drain. When or if you call, they may say no, but just drop my name and say a few guys recently bought some. They will only sell two at a time.
I know you wernt to happy with the valve drain set up, but trust me on this one, these work great.

http://www.thmarine.com/

msbhammer · #7 05-30-2007, 03:10 PM

Here's a pic. of my floor drains. They have a ball inside to prevent water from coming up onto the deck. I get zero water on the deck.
But if you want to do it right, "I didnt", you might want to knotch out the deck a bit. The drain has a lip, so water will sit around the drain, if not knotched out. The lip is only about 1/8 high.
BUT whatever you do, you MUST order the drain with a 90 degree, a 45 wont work because of teh height of the floor and hull. The 45 will hit the hull.

msbhammer · #8 05-30-2007, 03:11 PM

I also removed one inline valve because it was holding in to much sand. She drains fine now, and water doesnt come up through the hull when I'm out.

randlemanboater · #9 05-30-2007, 03:32 PM

Yo HAMMA,

How much did you pay for them scuppers?

And you say that they keep the water out without using the check valve?

msbhammer · #10 05-30-2007, 03:38 PM

Randleman, when i first got my V, I didnt like how the through hulls were set at the water line. It made me nervas. So I went overboard on the drain set up, just so I wouldnt sink. ;D
The deck drain has a ball in it. It lets water flow out great when washing down the deck...or a large wave ;D
For the price of two deck drains, I think they charged me maybe 60 bucks I think.
now the hose opening is bigger, so you will need to reduce from 1 1/2 down to 1" to fit the through-hull scupper, but they sell them at any hardware or marine store.