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Border crossing
why is it.......if you cross the north korean border illegally, you get 12 years hard labor......
but......if you cross the u.s. Border illegally, you get a driver's license, social security card, welfare, food stamps, and free health care? who's bright idea was this??????
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08-25-2009, 01:40 PM
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08-25-2009, 02:06 PM
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The argument is always that we need them to do the jobs we won't do. I call BS on that! WTF did we do before they started coming over here? We made it along just fine. Yes times have changed but us not wanting the jobs is because of THEM forcing the hourly wage down for THOSE jobs. It is a dumb dumb problem that could be easily corrected with harsher punishment and restrictions. I suspect the employers don't want to let go of the cheap labor. What else could it be?
I'm raising 3 BS flags on this one. 
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08-25-2009, 03:22 PM
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"did we do before they started coming over here?"
African slaves and Chinese, Italian, Irish immigrants. ******************************************** Illegal Mexican Labor harvests almost all our produce in this country. They get paid **** and are not treated well, but if we didn't have mexican labor . . . A head of lettuce would cost $15. Go outside Home Depot (anywhere in CA) there are hundreds of illegal skilled and unskilled mexican workers that will take day jobs for $50 - $100 and work their asses off. We don't realize how good we have it here . . . even if jobs are difficult to come by. No one will enforce the immigration laws, b/c our country/economy has always depended on a cheap source of labor. **************************************************
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08-25-2009, 03:39 PM
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Ok let them harvest produce but 15 years ago no construction guys had teams of Mexicans. At least the ones around where I live. I know what you are gonna say, "if not for them it would cost 3 x as much to build a house." Maybe so, but so be it.
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08-25-2009, 03:38 PM
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I think you are right, BS, and I agree with you that they will work their tail ends off. I have a buddy who owns a very successful landscape company and he uses many Mexican immigrants, legal ones however. He arranges to bring them in from Mexico on, I believe, a H1-B Visa. As part of the process, he has to advertise in the local paper for the positions for which he is hiring and the wage he will be paying. Guess what. Nobody shows up (at least they did not prior to the economy going to heck). Armed with the fact that he cannot find local workers for the wage offered, he then applies for Visas and gets the same crew back year after year. He takes the legal costs involved in doing so, and splits it among the workers and has it deducted from their wages. The Mexican workers love it--they get to fly here with actual Visas rather than some other less savory way of making their way to Indiana. They pool together and get inexpensive housing and pack them in. They are very hard workers and never give him any trouble. Even several of his supervisors come to him that way. He travelled to their campesino in Mexico once (all the guys come from the same place--heck it spreads by word of mouth that my friend is a good guy to work for) and they all lived like relative kings down there. Of course they have to leave their wives and children for 9 months of the year, but when they come back, they are able to enjoy the houses they have built with their earnings, their car, etc.
Yes, we need cheap labor, and we need some of the young'uns to get off their butts and provide it.
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