Which type of 2 stroke oil?

RWilson2526 · #1 02-09-2009, 09:35 PM

Being that I bought my boat towards the end of last season and I never owned an outboard prior to this I am looking to make my first purchase of 2 cycle oil. Whats the deal on this? should I only use Yamaha oil? Wally world by me sells Quicksilver for $25/gallon, Penzoil for $20/gallon and some other brand I cant remember for like $12/gallon.

What do I buy?

slimjim · #2 02-09-2009, 09:39 PM

Imo as long as the oil you get is rated tcw3 i dont think it matters. I have used penzoil forever with great results. The walmart brand oil would be fine as well. Its according to what kind of money you are wanting to spend but for me its splitting hairs.

THEFERMANATOR · #3 02-09-2009, 10:28 PM

Pre-mix or injected? I personally run PENNSOIL synthetic blend in mine, but WAL-MART is discontinuing sales of it and is switching over to the QUIKSILVER stuff. QUIKSILVER is just an okay oil that I feel is VERY over rated for what it costs. EVINRUDE XD-30 or 50 is also a good oil that is said to work very well as well, but is a little more costly to buy(unless you buy it in bulk). YAMALUBE is also a decent oil, but I never bought into the hype behind it as I always had plug fouling issues with it.

macojoe · #4 02-09-2009, 11:36 PM

Wally world TCW3 for me $10 a gal here, been using it for years!! But i premix. If you are injected the you better using something a little better like therm!
Also if your motor in new then you should stick to the makers brand till your warranty runs out.

THEFERMANATOR · #5 02-09-2009, 11:41 PM

I'm a pre-mixer as well, just the PENNSOIL smokes less. I don't really mind it so much, but my other half raises HE!! about it

. Something about it gives her headaches, it affects me differently

.

RWilson2526 · #6 02-10-2009, 06:21 AM

thanks for the responses so far. I am still using the VRO injection. And motor is 1986 so no worries about warranties there.

parishht · #7 02-10-2009, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR

I'm a pre-mixer as well, just the PENNSOIL smokes less. I don't really mind it so much, but my other half raises HE!! about it

. Something about it gives her headaches, it affects me differently

.

So Therm, you are saying you are like the rest of us two strokers,
(imagine "Ride of the Valkyre" playing in the background)
and said with a deep scratchy voice-

" I love the smell of two stroke oil in the morning"

By the way, I buy whatever is on sale, at Wally world, West marine
or whoever has a good sale,
I have the VRO still hooked up and so far, even with mixing real and synthetic,
as long as it has tcw3 on the label, I have had no issues, so far.
(I better go stroke my lucky rabits foot, now that I said that)

Steplift 72' · #8 02-16-2009, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWilson2526

Being that I bought my boat towards the end of last season and I never owned an outboard prior to this I am looking to make my first purchase of 2 cycle oil. Whats the deal on this? should I only use Yamaha oil? Wally world by me sells Quicksilver for $25/gallon, Penzoil for $20/gallon and some other brand I cant remember for like $12/gallon.

What do I buy?

I always believe in Pre-Mix, believe I've said that before....but... I did see a big Suzuki Super Six seize up when the oil gelled in the oil injection lines. If you're pre-mixing, it probably isn't that important that you use the manufacturers oil. Some folks on this site believe in the Suzuki oil, maybe I do too in a Suzuki from what I've seen. My humble opinion is that if you pre-mix, an oil rated at TCW3 is probably OK. If you're going to use the injection system, go with the manufacturers recommended oil.

The shame about the big Suzuki was that it had ran flawlessly for 3 years on Suzuki oil. After a several month rest over the winter it failed on the first trip. The major brand oil had turned to a blue gel in the injection tubings blocking flow. I was there, and I pulled the powerhead down....it ruined the whole powerhead including the crank. $3 grand later everything was OK.

THEFERMANATOR · #9 02-16-2009, 10:16 PM

Yep, I've heard of that happening before with the SUZUKI oil. SUZUKI used an additive in there oil that causes gelling inside the filter. It looks like little strings of plastic inside the filter after it sits for awhile.

eight · #10 02-16-2009, 10:22 PM

I've always had good luck with walmart oil. A friend gave me a few gallons of I believe it was Johnson oil a few years back and it took me a few years to burn it all out. 70hp nissan took a while to burn much oil. He didn't like it because it smoked alot and I can confirm it smoked more than walmart. Worked fine though.

The guy I bought my Mako from said he had recently switched to the penzoil synthetic oil. It does get an oily out of the prop hub which he said started when he switched oil. He gave me 2 gallons and when that's gone I'm going back to walmart. It worked great in the 200 oceanpro on my last boat. An old 2 stroke is gonna smoke at startup.