Poacher got busted today

garagenc · #1 02-07-2008, 07:10 PM

A buddy of mine said today the Poacher (charter boat out of Oregon inlet & Rudee) got boarded today and they checked the GPS and found he had run outside the 3 mile limit. They took his catch and probably will get fined for that. He hasn't posted today but I'm wondering if he'll mention it (bad business).

Mac_Attack · #2 02-08-2008, 12:47 PM

I'm sorry. Could you explain to a Great Lakes fisherman why it's illegal to go outside of the 3 mile limit to catch fish? I hear a lot of guys here talking about 40 mile runs. Thanks Billy Mac

chumbucket · #3 02-08-2008, 01:14 PM

How can they prove that he actually caught those fish outside the limit? That makes no sense to me at all.

Blue_Runner · #4 02-08-2008, 02:29 PM

Oh man that IS bad!!

The fact is the CAN'T prove where they were caught, but the real problem is that neither can you!!

It is actually illegal to even TARGET striped bass outside of 3 miles of the beach. Therefore when practicing catch and release on the striped bass outside the 3 mile line you must "pretend" to be bluefishing if questioned by the man. AND most importantly if you decide to cross the line, you'd better not have ANY fish in the box.

Mac - when we talk about the 40 mile run, we are referring to going up and down the beach 40 miles (still within 3 miles of the beach) not going offshore 40 miles.

Its a dumb law that alot of people are against. I don't how that law helps a single soul.

randlemanboater · #5 02-08-2008, 02:30 PM

Mac,

The ocean out 3 miles are state waters, then federal waters from there. I assume that the federal waters must be closed for stripers.

As for his charges, I bet he can beat them unless he gave them permission to manipulate his GPS. There have been a couple of recent court cases that have found that you can look at a screen of an electronic devise for free but to manipulate it in any way requires consent or probable cause.

Ok, now I have talked law, politics and religion on a boat message board all in one day.

THEFERMANATOR · #6 02-08-2008, 03:03 PM

Thia is a similiar issue to what I posted a few nights ago about what were going through in the gulf. 3 miles out in the ATLANTIC is federal waters, so the feds can make there own rules to how they want them(normally to cover the commercial guys not recreational). Were having similiar issues in the gulf, down here it's 9 miles out, but there trying to take out our kneecaps, rape us and not even offer us lube or a reach around.

garagenc · #7 02-08-2008, 05:41 PM

Blue that was good explaination for Billy MAc on his questions.

I understand they looked at his (poacher) gps and found he had gone outside of the 3 mile limit. I have a Coastie that fishes with me and he said they got a call and was asked to look because some boats were outside the 3 mile limit. They didn't target him personnally because there were others they stopped also. My buddy wasnt on the patrol that flew over them to start with.

randlemanboater · #8 02-08-2008, 08:59 PM

I just realized that BR was posting the same time I was earlier. Oh well.

garagenc · #9 02-08-2008, 10:45 PM

No need to worry, some of us need to told twice by different people.

Stillrunning · #10 02-11-2008, 01:19 PM

Heres what really happened.

The CG saw the charter "fishing" 4 miles off shore from a helicopter and call it in to a CG in a boat. When they got to the charter they were within the three miles but they had 11 stripers on board. Sense they were spotted fishing over the line the CG took the fish (sent them to a homeless shelter soup kitchen) and gave the captain a ticket. The captain claims that none of the fish were caught over the line but has no way of proven this and its still illegal to striper fish over the line anyways.