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Pipe_Dream 10-11-2016 10:11 PM

Matthew claims the Pipe Dream
 
She went under (mostly) tied to the dock. Just got back on the island today to find her that way. Filed a claim with BoatUS and will see what they say. We are thankful that our house was spared from major damage. The island is a mess. Will try to add sad pics tomorrow. Any advice on insurance claims and salvage would be greatly appreciated.

spareparts 10-12-2016 05:51 AM

sorry to hear about the "Dream":sad:

Destroyer 10-12-2016 05:51 AM

UGH!! Very sorry to hear about your boat. But on the good side, as you said, your home and your family were spared. And truly that's the most important thing. As far as the boat goes, they are remarkably resilient. Unless there was major structural damage (Hull breach for example) there's no reason to scrap her. The engine is another story, best told by Ferm or Spare. But I would think the Pipe Dream herself may be salvagable.

tsubaki 10-12-2016 05:58 AM

Sorry to hear that Pipe.
Glad to hear y'all and the house are ok!
Thanks for checking in with us!

phatdaddy 10-12-2016 09:36 AM

the good news is, you have insurance and i've heard boatus is the best one to deal with. the only experience i've had is a key largo that sank at the dock due to getting caught under the stringers at low tide, then when tide came in, flooded over the transom. we were able to drag it to the hill and pump the water out. once re-floated, put it on the trailer and got it home. boatus declared it total loss, paid the owner and sold him back the salvaged hull.

not sure of how much value u insured, but hull is probably ok.

THEFERMANATOR 10-12-2016 11:05 AM

Sorry to hear. So long as you get the hull pumped out fairly quickly, it should be fine, the hpdi is another story. I would suspect eeverything electrical as well as the high pressure fuel system is done for.

bradford 10-12-2016 04:19 PM

Hate to hear that Pipe. Glad you and your house made it, hopefully the insurance will make you whole.

willy 10-13-2016 06:21 PM

Good luck Pipe, sorry to hear about your loss. I lost my Bertram 28 to Sandy. Boat US paid the declared value. Good luck my friend

reelapeelin 10-13-2016 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream (Post 229754)
She went under (mostly) tied to the dock. Just got back on the island today to find her that way. Filed a claim with BoatUS and will see what they say. We are thankful that our house was spared from major damage. The island is a mess. Will try to add sad pics tomorrow. Any advice on insurance claims and salvage would be greatly appreciated.

The "Pipe" has been one of my all time favorites on this forum since day one...a real heartbreaker...my hope is you can breathe new life back into her...

reelapeelin 10-13-2016 07:16 PM

Looking back at the restoration pics of the Pipe Dream is like a stroll down memory lane...she's perfect!

Can't recall if that was re-gel coated or painted?...whichever...would you do the same again, given the choice?

twhrider2 10-13-2016 07:31 PM

Bad deal Pipe...Hope everything works out.

steplift20 10-13-2016 08:52 PM

Wow I'm so sorry for you pipedream but I'm sure she can be cleaned up and ready to sale another day The good news is nobody was hurt and everything can be replaced, you can fix her and I'm 100 percent sure we can help you with spare parts we have a nod great advice
Hand in there brother

steplift20 10-13-2016 08:53 PM

I meant sail not sale sorry about that Hope that brought a smile to your face

lumberslinger178 10-14-2016 06:04 PM

sorry to hear this news .... but glad your home was spared. two of my brothers were under water from sandy an one lost his 34 Silverton I feel your pain pipe.

Pipe_Dream 10-16-2016 08:03 PM

Thanks, everyone. I'm waiting for a fellow who comes highly recommended to have a look at her and tell me first if she's sound and second what we're looking at to bring her back. Reel, we awlgripped her back in 2004 when we repowered. Everything the insurance company will give for her would go toward re powering and rewiring, but wouldn't cover it all. I would have to come up with the additional plus cost to do repairs. She was overinsured but not by enough to cover all that. Will have to weigh all this and decide. Spent a LOT in 2004, don't know how much sense it makes to do it again. Of course, we're talking about a boat so how much sense does it have to make??

Sorry I haven't gotten back sooner but still no phone or internet so this is via my smart phone and I am not very good with it, but getting better. I appreciate everyone's input.

jjuriga 10-16-2016 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream (Post 229754)
She went under (mostly) tied to the dock. Just got back on the island today to find her that way. Filed a claim with BoatUS and will see what they say. We are thankful that our house was spared from major damage. The island is a mess. Will try to add sad pics tomorrow. Any advice on insurance claims and salvage would be greatly appreciated.

man that sucks, bro. I'm just getting done with my rehab project... I feel your pain.

bradford 10-24-2016 12:37 AM

Hate to hear it Pipe. We just got internet back today, 10/24/16.

bradford 11-01-2016 06:53 PM

Any news Pipe? Hope things work out the best possible for you.

Pipe_Dream 11-04-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bradford (Post 229969)
Any news Pipe? Hope things work out the best possible for you.

Thanks. The engine will spin so it's not frozen, but haven't been able to get any fire yet.

bradford 11-12-2016 08:51 PM

Insurance man got ya any money....

http://keys.craigslist.org/boa/5873012915.html

Destroyer 11-13-2016 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bradford (Post 230156)
Insurance man got ya any money....

http://keys.craigslist.org/boa/5873012915.html

That's a lot of money and a very small engine for such a large boat. Looking at the hull lines it looks more like a Downeast Lobster style boat than a planing hull. And truthfully, I wonder if it's fiberglass or wood? What about a trailer?

bradford 11-15-2016 03:19 AM

Pipe likes dem kinda boats.

Pipe_Dream 11-15-2016 12:43 PM

Stop, evil tempter!


I do like the downeast style hulls, but that one looks like too much compromise to me.
http://easternboats.com/inventory/22...220-bass-boat/

What on earth is she doing in the Keys?

bradford 11-15-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream (Post 230198)
What on earth is she doing in the Keys?

Probably bragging about how great things are up north, while *****ing about the locals and the relative humidity.

Destroyer 11-15-2016 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream (Post 230198)
Stop, evil tempter!


I do like the downeast style hulls, but that one looks like too much compromise to me.
http://easternboats.com/inventory/22...220-bass-boat/

What on earth is she doing in the Keys?

Yup. I have to agree that the "downeast" style is right at the top of my list for beauty and functionality if you're a fisherman, crabber, lobsterman, of diver. The only problem I have with them is they are displacement hulls, which severely limits your speed... (especially if you're trying to outrun an approaching storm and you're miles out to sea). If they would make a downeast style deck with a deep V planing hull like a V20's at a reasonable cost I would be all over it. And yes, I know that Shamrock and a few others do make somewhat similar boats, but they are mostly inboards and I/O's.. and they cost way too much for this poor retiree. :embarsed:

inaforty 11-16-2016 06:41 AM

That's a sisu. They had two different molds. One was a hard chine and the other a soft chine. Peter Brown built these boats in NH for a number of years.
The hard chine model was built/modifed by Rosborough in Nova Scotia. Well built boats but tender side to side kind of like a sail boat. When weather get rough you have to slow down. However they can go through a lot of bad weather. I'd rather have the V 20 myself. If you get serious about any of these downeast hulls be sure to run them in a following sea (esp quartering following seas). I loved our downeast hull for many things (economy, pilothouse, etc) but after buying a V 20 I sold the downeast hull and bought a Bertram to replace the downeast/novie hull. That being said many people love the semi displacement hulls.

Here's a few photos of new Sisu's with pilothouses being rigged in Nova Scotia.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...aScotia020.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...aScotia034.jpg

Pipe_Dream 02-26-2018 08:27 AM

2/26/18 update. Here we are 16 months later and the PD is still on the hard. You may recall that all the large shops were inundated after Matthew, and that a local guy who runs a one man shop was going to take on her repairs. He came well recommended, said he thought that the engine was repairable. Checked it out, it turned, and had it running in short order, but said it was going to need relays, some wiring components, and so forth. "Next week." That was the month after Matthew, November 2016. By March he was finalizing parts for the engine, was going to re-wire the boat and work on cosmetics "next week." All this time I was stopping by his shop a couple times a week, but he was typically not there, out on dock calls. My boat was always "next week." Personal things (mine) took up the majority of my attention, but I kept checking on the boat and nothing much was getting done and I was having difficulty running him down ("next week"). When I did, it was yeah your engine is good and I just have to find time to do the other stuff. In October (1 year) I connected with him and tried to get him to commit to getting the work done by Thanksgiving. He said yes. At Thanksgiving we agreed that it would be done by Christmas. I guess I should have specified the year... In January I told him I wanted to pick up the boat, and could he put the engine together and get it ready to roll. I picked her up a few weeks ago and took her to a dealer, Yamaha certified and seller. I got the report from him last week that yes, the engine will run but he hears ugly sounds from inside and it would need a wiring harness and more and recommends that I put no money into the engine.

So, now I'm looking at repowering, rewiring and cosmetics. And starting to look at boats for sale advertisements. I'd like to bring her back to life, but don't know how smart it is to sink a lot of $$$ into her versus another boat. Beginning to read up on what's available in new engines.

This is my tale of woe. First world problems, I know.

bradford 03-01-2018 03:14 AM

Hate to hear it Pipe, gone down that road myself, times change and I don't know if I'd do it all again. A new engine I think would be a wise decision.

spareparts 03-01-2018 08:14 AM

Pipe, I can sell you a new Suzuki if you are interested. Ive got a deal thru one of my suppliers and getting certifyed. Let me know what HP you are thinking about, 20 or 25, what color. Mechanical shift or electric and I'll work you up a price

Pipe_Dream 03-02-2018 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spareparts (Post 235484)
Pipe, I can sell you a new Suzuki if you are interested. Ive got a deal thru one of my suppliers and getting certifyed. Let me know what HP you are thinking about, 20 or 25, what color. Mechanical shift or electric and I'll work you up a price

Thanks, spare! Would you install it? :-)

spareparts 03-02-2018 12:25 PM

Yes, I would Install it. Ive got to run out of town for the weekend(my father is in the hospital), but I'll get you some numbers next week

Pipe_Dream 03-02-2018 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spareparts (Post 235502)
Yes, I would Install it. Ive got to run out of town for the weekend(my father is in the hospital), but I'll get you some numbers next week

Thanks! I will try to look at their selection online and see what would be the best fit.

reelapeelin 03-06-2018 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream (Post 235503)
Thanks! I will try to look at their selection online and see what would be the best fit.

So glad to read Pipe will ride again!...:clap:

Pipe_Dream 06-12-2018 10:38 AM

Appreciation for the help and encouragement, especially from spareparts.

It turned out that I got hooked up with a local who has been working on the old PD. New Suzuki 175 has been mounted, boat has been re-wired and other items being checked off one by one.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/media/d.71711/full

The sun has not set for the last time on the Pipe Dream.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/media/p.71712/full

Sorry I haven't yet mastered the resizing of pics at my new hosting site.

spareparts 06-12-2018 06:52 PM

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

bradford 06-24-2018 11:11 PM

Sweet Pipe!

Tommydoe 07-09-2018 11:29 AM

Congrats :clap:

Pipe_Dream 07-12-2018 01:46 PM

Thanks, guys.

I'm ready to splash. So I'm hunting insurance. BoatUS wants an out-of-the-water survey in order to re-insure. Surveyor wants to charge $500.

OUCH!

I found another who will do it for $300. I will go with him if necessary.

I'm asking around for others who won't require a survey. But I'm afraid when they ask about prior claims that if I tell them that she sunk they'll want the same.

What's a guy to do?

phatdaddy 07-12-2018 05:13 PM

Can u add it to your homeowners?

wellcraftv20step 07-12-2018 07:35 PM

Best of luck with the new motor Pipe !


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