Wellcraft V20 Community

Wellcraft V20 Community (https://forums.wmpdevserver1.com/community/index.php)
-   Performance (https://forums.wmpdevserver1.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=15)
-   -   How come no new " how fast " threads ? (https://forums.wmpdevserver1.com/community/showthread.php?t=18416)

bgreene 11-12-2012 06:19 PM

How come no new " how fast " threads ?
 
Could it be that I asked every stupid question we can think of ?

How about the new Yami 300 4 stroker ? Supposed to be much lighter........

Figure fully trimmed it should push a V21 about 58 mph.


Please - no one respond to this thread. I'm even sick of it myself..........

spareparts 11-12-2012 06:38 PM

no ones got any money to spend on fuel or go fast items. Have you priced the Yamaha's? personally I've been reading the reports of the new Yamaha 200, it looks like it could be the perfect motor for a V20, just cost too much for me

bgreene 11-12-2012 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spareparts (Post 196910)
no ones got any money to spend on fuel or go fast items. Have you priced the Yamaha's? personally I've been reading the reports of the new Yamaha 200, it looks like it could be the perfect motor for a V20, just cost too much for me

Spare - I'm really just kidding around....... for a while I was posting this question frequently.

I run a carb'd 150hp on my V21 and it's ok. The newer etec 200 or optimax 200 probably uses less fuel but to your point - it's a lot of $$$.

jasoncooperpcola 11-12-2012 11:17 PM

How fast on a V22 pilothouse center console with a shortened cuddy, and two 2.5L Merc 200s on a bracket? I am figuring 75. at least.....

RidgeRunner 11-13-2012 07:31 AM

Hydrofoils you say? Rocket boosters? UBHYSTRY's kinda set the bar IMHO. Yup, there it is. Slightly north of 70 IIRC with an hopped up stroker SBC and an A-drive. Twins on a light one would be fun, albeit expensive. I still think a light enough 300 outboard might see 70.

jasoncooperpcola 11-13-2012 09:57 AM

I saw an Opti XS 300 3.2L Stroker on a Blazer Bay the other day. What an outboard.:sad:

jasoncooperpcola 11-13-2012 10:00 AM

phone wont edit. The smilie was supposed to be :money: not the sad smilie.

ssiredfish 11-13-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 196905)
Could it be that I asked every stupid question we can think of ?

How about the new Yami 300 4 stroker ? Supposed to be much lighter........

Figure fully trimmed it should push a V21 about 58 mph.


Please - no one respond to this thread. I'm even sick of it myself..........

Couldnt have said it better myself......

draglink 11-13-2012 03:45 PM

[IMG]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/draglink/3780perfect_***_mountainbike.jpg[/IMG]

Blue_Runner 11-14-2012 03:50 PM

I think we need a "How slow...." thread. For instance, when I was using my 9.9hp I was able to put along at .9 mph. I'm thinking with a Sears Eska 1.2 hp air-cooled 2-stroke outboard (tuned just right) I could get to .3 mph but concerned about how the V will handle the lack of speed. Can these hulls handle it? Do you think any water that hits the deck will drain forward as opposed to aft toward the scuppers or do I need to add some ballast in the rear???

Am I over-thinking again? HELP!
:part:

bradford 11-14-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Runner (Post 196985)
I think we need a "How slow...." thread. For instance, when I was using my 9.9hp I was able to put along at .9 mph. I'm thinking with a Sears Eska 1.2 hp air-cooled 2-stroke outboard (tuned just right) I could get to .3 mph but concerned about how the V will handle the lack of speed. Can these hulls handle it? Do you think any water that hits the deck will drain forward as opposed to aft toward the scuppers or do I need to add some ballast in the rear???

Am I over-thinking again? HELP!
:part:

You probably want to go with a Sears Gamefisher instead of that Eska. That or quadruple Force 125's ('87 model, The black ones with the digital watch graphics) on a bracket with custom ventelating steps built into the hull.

http://i2.bmostatic.com/UserFiles/99...2ce21f3aa0.jpg

reh76 11-14-2012 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradford (Post 196987)
You probably want to go with a Sears Gamefisher instead of that Eska. That or quadruple Force 125's ('87 model, The black ones with the digital watch graphics) on a bracket with custom ventelating steps built into the hull.

http://i2.bmostatic.com/UserFiles/99...2ce21f3aa0.jpg

For an offshore fishing rig how would that compare to say a 1985 Bayliner Capri with counter rotating Force 90's and vent holes drilled in the props?

Genie Aye 11-15-2012 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 196905)
How about the new Yami 300 4 stroker ? Supposed to be much lighter........

Figure fully trimmed it should push a V21 about 58 mph.

Why screw around with the little stuff----Put the 525hp outboard on it and call it good---should do around 80+ if the hull does not come apart---LMAO

You are right--the horse is dead:nut:

RidgeRunner 11-15-2012 07:44 AM

For the record, those Force engines were not black. I believe the color was Force-ler Blue. Late 80's I worked at a place that sold VIP's with factory rigged Force outboards. Never saw a counter rotating Force, nor a 25" shaft come to think of it. Wonder if any are still alive?

Long live the go-fast thrreads.

Blue_Runner 11-15-2012 09:59 AM

Seriously guys....I expected more out of you. At least Bradford did touch on the question at hand. Otherwise, most of my questions have not been answered.....disapointed......think I will post up on THT where the real expert "GO SLOW" pros hang out.

Cheers. :rain:

jasoncooperpcola 11-15-2012 10:55 AM

At what rpm do you get .9 mph with a 9.9?

Blue_Runner 11-15-2012 11:22 AM

Honestly do not know because there's no tac but I believe it is a 9 p prop and .9 was a tick above idle so my old workhorse would stay runnin.

Anybody getting .1 or less? :fam:

Destroyer 11-15-2012 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Runner (Post 197007)
Honestly do not know because there's no tac but I believe it is a 9 p prop and .9 was a tick above idle so my old workhorse would stay runnin.

Anybody getting .1 or less? :fam:


Bah.... you guys are pikers.... You want to go slow? I have a set of Sears oars that will do much less than .1. (Depending on how many beers I've had) :beer:

jasoncooperpcola 11-15-2012 11:43 AM

I do not know exactly how fast we were going. But wot with a 150 Johnson barely moving. Truck had gotten stuck in sand and had to use the Johnson to help push. :sand: It took about two or three minutes to go ten feet.

randlemanboater 11-18-2012 07:05 PM

I'll put my 2.7 Cruise-n-carry up against your 9.9 anyday BR.

I bet it will go WAY under .9 mph...it may even go negative with the right prop.

But its been put up for the winter so I guess we cant run em...but if we did, you would leave me in the dust.

Blue_Runner 11-19-2012 09:38 AM

We can go title for title next spring RB. Whoever takes the longest to go 20 feet gets both motors. And a plaque.

Destroyer 11-19-2012 10:29 AM

My 2 hp British Seagull is probably too fast unless I change the prop.. but it's a great trolling maching. Never actually measured how slow with the gps.. I wonder how you actually measure less than one knot? Do you use a chip log?

Blue_Runner 11-19-2012 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 197179)
My 2 hp British Seagull is probably too fast unless I change the prop.. but it's a great trolling maching. Never actually measured how slow with the gps.. I wonder how you actually measure less than one knot? Do you use a chip log?

No, no, just use IPH. (inches per hour) LOL

bgreene 11-26-2012 07:02 PM

Doing a little casual search for Evinrude 200hp DFI from 2002-2005......

Not the etec, just before after Bombardier had cleaned up the mess and was building a great motor. I had one of these.......Evinrude master tech dealership told me it puts out approx 218 prop hp so it's in line with the Etec 200 HO, but less money.

That should push my V21 to approx 50 mph. Nice.

As I mentioned - casual search ( meaning how much $$ to pull the trigger.....or not )

UBHSTRY 11-26-2012 09:35 PM

I want back in when we go back to drag racing these things:sun:

UBHSTRY 11-26-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RidgeRunner (Post 196922)
Hydrofoils you say? Rocket boosters? UBHYSTRY's kinda set the bar IMHO. Yup, there it is. Slightly north of 70 IIRC with an hopped up stroker SBC and an A-drive. Twins on a light one would be fun, albeit expensive. I still think a light enough 300 outboard might see 70.


Wow, thank you for the kind words RidgeRunner.

bgreene 12-10-2012 06:59 PM

The new 557 hp outboard is the ticket- weight, I believe around 1,000lbs.

Transom rips off into the water........ engine falls into the water.......sharks in the water......our shark.....

" Farewell and adue my sweetie etc, farewell and adue etc, ect........

Blue_Runner 12-12-2012 04:46 PM

I think this thread jumped a shark. :fam: I'm proud to have had a hand in it. :party:

randlemanboater 12-12-2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Runner (Post 197901)
I think this thread jumped a shark. :fam: I'm proud to have had a hand in it. :party:

Fonzie style.

Destroyer 12-12-2012 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randlemanboater (Post 197916)
Fonzie style.



Heeeeyyyyyyyyyyy!

bradford 12-13-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_Runner (Post 197901)
I think this thread jumped a shark. :fam: I'm proud to have had a hand in it. :party:


BR one ups CTT with his new avatar.....





Blue_Runner 12-13-2012 11:35 AM

:fam:Aaaaeeeyyy!:fam:


bgreene 01-27-2013 06:04 PM

I read about a 2.5 liter Merc that produced approx. 280 prop horsepower.

2 stroke, not heavy but LOUD....built for racing.

So..............on a V ? I'll say ......... 60 mph would be possible.
Based on each 50 hp pushing about 8-10 mph faster.

RidgeRunner 01-28-2013 07:44 AM

:drool:

Destroyer 01-28-2013 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 199744)
I read about a 2.5 liter Merc that produced approx. 280 prop horsepower.

2 stroke, not heavy but LOUD....built for racing.

So..............on a V ? I'll say ......... 60 mph would be possible.
Based on each 50 hp pushing about 8-10 mph faster.

I suppose anything is possible, given enough money and time, but is it really necessary, and can you do it safely? These hulls were never built for that kind of torture. Plowing thru a wave at 35 is a hell of a lot different than smashing thru that same wave at 60. I'm satisfied with my 200 moving me along nicely.

draglink 01-29-2013 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 199744)
I read about a 2.5 liter Merc that produced approx. 280 prop horsepower.

2 stroke, not heavy but LOUD....built for racing.

So..............on a V ? I'll say ......... 60 mph would be possible.
Based on each 50 hp pushing about 8-10 mph faster.

I would say no problem with a slick bottom.

My 200 Merc is making a little over 200HP, no bottom paint, fastest I have seen on GPS is 53 mph. So 280 HP out of same motor, hell yeah!

bgreene 02-02-2013 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by draglink (Post 199816)
I would say no problem with a slick bottom.

My 200 Merc is making a little over 200HP, no bottom paint, fastest I have seen on GPS is 53 mph. So 280 HP out of same motor, hell yeah!

Drag - which 200 are you running - the OptiMax ?

draglink 02-02-2013 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 199957)
Drag - which 200 are you running - the OptiMax ?


Old Skool carbed Black Max 2.4 200......I have a great friend who races outboards and loves these things. He did a rebuild on it for me....he wanted to get crazy, but I had a budget to stick to.

I REALLY wish it was the 3.0 250 block!!

aussie 02-03-2013 06:32 AM

carazy man you want a fishing boat to go like a ski boat and this guy wants his tractor to go like a drag car :hide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28FReT0RBIs

bgreene 02-03-2013 07:15 AM

Now THAT'S a sleeper vehicle !

V 20 top speed performance thread is for fun.....

The fastest V was the guy who posted video with the inboard - approx 70 mph top speed.

Would have liked to seen more of it, and use of tabs to eliminate the porposing so it runs flat.

Inboard power is really the best way to create the ultimate " sleeper V boat " .
Transom can only handle X size outboard, and inboard weight further forward balances better.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:16 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.